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06/01/11, 10:06 PM
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Safe to drink this?
Oma was a little unsteady on the stand tonight and she went to move her foot and I jumped thinking she was going to put it in the bucket and her hoof sorta scraped across the rim and a piece of something flaked into the bucket.
I was sitting there thinking that bucket would be made into chevre-as I finished up the last batch at breakfast.
If I heat the milk to 145 for 30 minutes, do you think any yuckies in that flake would die?
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06/01/11, 10:39 PM
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I'd toss it, but that's me.
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06/01/11, 10:43 PM
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I'd wait for the next batch too. Just better safe than sorry.
I took micro in college and milk reminds me of nutrient agar that they put in the petri dishes to grow "stuff" in. Toss it and put the mind at ease.
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06/01/11, 10:45 PM
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When that happens in my barn, the chickens are very happy!  Not worth risking it.
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06/01/11, 10:48 PM
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Ok-good to know.
I tend to be a little loose when it comes to food safety so I'm glad I asked. I figured y'all would all think I was nuts and the milk would be just fine!
I need another goat. I can't be throwing out and messing up on this precious milk!
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06/02/11, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley
Oma was a little unsteady on the stand tonight and she went to move her foot and I jumped thinking she was going to put it in the bucket and her hoof sorta scraped across the rim and a piece of something flaked into the bucket.
I was sitting there thinking that bucket would be made into chevre-as I finished up the last batch at breakfast.
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I'm sure you could strain it and kill the germs with heat. But, honestly, I would just give it to the dogs here. It's just easier than worrying about straining and heating. And it still goes to good use.
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06/02/11, 09:14 AM
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yup chicken/cat food here too
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06/02/11, 10:26 AM
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I agree, toss it. That happens every once in a while with the cows I milk and we always just toss the milk.
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06/02/11, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley
Oma was a little unsteady on the stand tonight and she went to move her foot and I jumped thinking she was going to put it in the bucket and her hoof sorta scraped across the rim and a piece of something flaked into the bucket.
I was sitting there thinking that bucket would be made into chevre-as I finished up the last batch at breakfast.
If I heat the milk to 145 for 30 minutes, do you think any yuckies in that flake would die?
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I personally wouldn't toss it unless I actually had bottle babies that were sharing the milk anyways. Heating to 145 for 30 minutes is the same as pasteurizing; no more yuckies so why not make the cheese as planned? I would.
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06/02/11, 12:25 PM
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If we are voting, I'd toss it, chickens or dogs would be happy.
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06/02/11, 01:08 PM
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One of the reasons we have dairy goats is to have milk that is *cleaner* than what you buy at the store.
I'm sure it has been fed to dogs or chickens or composted by now.
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06/02/11, 03:20 PM
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Dirty milk with mystery ick is never wasted.
I pasteurize & feed to the bottle kids.
The chickens, cats & dogs really enjoy it....
You can feed your plants with it...
I've not mastered the art of pasteurizing goat's milk & retaining a flavor I like, so when in doubt someone else around here gets it
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06/02/11, 05:06 PM
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Dirty milk with mystery ick is never wasted.
I pasteurize & feed to the bottle kids.
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I wouldn't even bother to pasteurize it. You are more industrious than I am.
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06/02/11, 07:30 PM
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I would filter and pasteurize it (I go up to 161 for 30 seconds -15 longer than necessary) and mark the jar with an X. I wouldn't drink it but if I had a recipe that would bake it at a high temp I'd use it.
I pasteurize all our milk though, our barn has no clean space to milk in so until I have a nice clean room to milk in I'd consider all of our milk less than perfect
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06/02/11, 07:34 PM
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I keep a "chicken bucket" in the milk shed. Anything iffy goes in there right away.
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06/02/11, 10:08 PM
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Oh wow. I don't really have a barn, I milk Oma on the stand on the back driveway.  Wonder if any of it is safe to drink-we are literally out in the sunshine with no walls around us to keep the yuck out. Right beside the minivan.
I put it in the mini fridge in the sunroom and now I can't remember which jug it's in. Blah. That stinks!
Thanks y'all.
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06/02/11, 10:16 PM
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Mekasmom- I only pasturize because I bought these kids from clean herds... I've only tested my girls once for CAE (all negative) so until I get another test back on them I an safe rather than sorry...so the pasteurization is for CAE prevention....nothing more. Heat to 165° for 30 seconds
Shannon, I don't have a barn or milk room either! Just a stand in part of the pen I have sectioned off... ikeep it clean & am religious about sanitation...my milk taste great. .Even people who "hate goat's milk" drink mine & like it (much to their surprise)
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06/03/11, 03:46 AM
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Dad tells of back when he was a kid Grandma milked the cow. If a hunk of nasties fell in the bucket, they just strained it out.
Me personally..... um, no.
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