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05/13/11, 01:40 PM
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day 156
this goat is making me crazy.
I went back and checked, and she was last with the buck dec 9.
She is not in distress (uncomfortably fat, but otherwise fine), I can FEEL babies, she has been slowly bagging up but is not large and tight, for the last four days she's lost an occasional string of clear mucus, she still has ligaments, and I am losing my mind.
How long can this continue?!
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05/13/11, 02:18 PM
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Let me know. My 11 year old doe was due LAST SUNDAY!
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05/13/11, 02:29 PM
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I will admit that I am NOT GOOD at waiting... I only have one doe left to kid.. It's my, herd queen & most beloved lady, Jenna... day 150 will be on the 23rd.. if she does not kid on or before the 23rd.. I will inducing her the morning of the 23rd .... I've had does go over this year that have NEVER gone beyond 150... One doe had a dry birth.. I never saw ANY discharge, but she had to have been leaking.. The dry doeling was fine, as was her sister.. but you could tell they should have been born a couple days earlier.. besides the dry doeling, the 2nd doeling had a lot of meconium staining... Jenna is getting older. I never got her to take last year.. this year it took some hormone therapy to get her pregnant... I know if she goes over ... I will be a total basket case.. better for her & I both to just plan to induce...
good luck with both your does rootsandwings/Alice
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05/13/11, 02:36 PM
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At least you guys have a due date. Even if its late u know she was bred by the right buck. Im Starting to worry Dolly got bred by some other buck other then the pygmy buck i was told. I would have thought that the people who bought Dolly from the breeders would have had her a month before selling her. So know im worrying a big buck or the boar buck next door goat her. I do know she has to be close. Shes been losing some white mucus of and on for the last week and her utter is getting tight and big. She is big herself and uncomfortable. Im thinking of creating a post tommorrow for anyone who wants to guess her due date lol.
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05/13/11, 02:36 PM
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she's 2!
She freshened last year. unfortunately I have no idea what day because I didn't breed her last year (someone else did)
last year dd checked her - no signs of labor, left for a party. I got home 2 hours later to a dry doeling with a full tummy.
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05/13/11, 06:10 PM
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Well she might not have settled for 2 or 3 days so you maybe on Day 153 and not 156.
Me I like to see how many, what color, what sex and etc it is exciting but I can wait  Except when they are in labor starting at 10 am and I keep going back and forth to check on them and they do not actually start to push till 7 pm. That is when I get tired of it and just want to "squeeze" the kids out of them, lol.
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05/13/11, 09:04 PM
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so if she didn't settle right away - I may get paid back for this with doelings, right? after 4 bucklings this year that would be a nice change....
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05/14/11, 12:19 PM
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I was thinking the same thing as thaiblue, that maybe it was a few days before she actually settled. If she doesn't seem in any distress try not to worry & just keep a real close eye on her. I know easier said than done & I'm a big talker because I worry about everything.
I actually checked in here thinking there would be baby pictures by now!
Alice any babies for you yet?
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05/14/11, 01:44 PM
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well, i went out this morning and said toy her "ok, I get it, I'm crazy. you aren't pregnant and whatever I felt it wasn't babies - I just let you get fat." then she stood up - her udder doubled in size overnight and the goo is now amber - but she's still not in hard labor.
unfortunately there won't be any baby pictures because I am on an Ipad and can't upload photos - so I only have on-line pictures by chance when somebody does them for me.
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05/14/11, 02:22 PM
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I'm going out to tell my doe what you said.
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05/14/11, 04:03 PM
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OK Alice & Rootsandwings, I'm checking in here later for BABY updates!!
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05/14/11, 04:34 PM
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you realize that just means you get to be crazy with us, right?
I'm thinking she'll probaly hold out for 4 a.m. goats love to have babies at 4 a.m.
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05/14/11, 04:58 PM
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not to be a worry-wart but you mentioned AMBER goo earlier today.. how much goo? a smidge? a string?... usually once the goo goes amber, my does are about ready to push... the doe that I mentioned earlier...the one who had the dry baby... she goo'ed some amber goo.. not a longggg string, but some.. and then just sort of hang out... after a couple hours (about an hour longer then I would have normally have waited..I was nervous because I know that dead kids can be one cause for a doe going over due/not having a normal labor).. when I allow myself to have a feel... that's when I found her totally dried out doeling, right at her cervix.. but not moving down... that kid was fine.. a little lube and out she came.. it was the doeling behind her that concerned me.. she was literally covered/stained in nasty looking meconium... she hadn't inhaled any, thankfully.. but she was for sure stressed... also I noticed that the afterbirths looked *old* too..she passed them with no problem.. but they were not as bright in color as usual.. easier to tear.. just not as *healthy* looking.. Seeing that, the stained baby and the dry baby.. is what made me start inducing this year whenever anyone goes over... Carla was only day 154 and had issues... but she is a nubian and just about every doe I have goes on day 149 or 150..
I'm sure you are right and she's just trying to make you stay up all night LOL... but just wanted to throw that out there... checking her for dilation, might not be such a bad idea..
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05/14/11, 06:14 PM
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just a little - once it got serious (about ten minutes after my last post) things went quickly.
but I didn't know dead kids could make them go over, and now I do. 1st one was a little buckling - shoulder presentation, head back, feet back, meconium in the sack and DOA. I was pretty sure I didn't break his neck in the 15 minutes it took me to decide something was wrong, go in, and turn him, but I thought he might have drowned. However, with your info and the fact that he was small and had no muscle tone and his umbilicus was broken at the stomach, I'm going to guess he was recently dead in utero.
next one was a lovely little brown doeling who divided out very cooperatively while I was still fruitlessly swinging her brother. followed by a black and white foot which eventually brought along a nose belonging to a second buckling who managed to squeeze out with the other leg still back.
So she has a doeling and a buckling to care for and seems very happy. She's up, placenta is hanging and all seem well.
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05/14/11, 06:27 PM
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Congrats on the healthy and live kids!!!
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05/14/11, 06:29 PM
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congrats!!!! so happy your wait is over ... sorry about the one DOA kid.. but two healthy ones (and a DOELING) YIPPPEEE!!! Babies that dies in utero .... sometimes just don't have the same effect on a doe's cervix & contractions... I always worry about a bad presentation or a DOA baby when I have a doe go over.. (BUT.. many times.. it's just healthy kids.. that want to *bake* a little bit longer)...
again congrats
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05/14/11, 06:31 PM
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Oh...I don't like to hear about dead kids. I'm glad the other two are okay and you got a doeling! Thanks for updating!!
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05/14/11, 09:54 PM
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yes, I am glad to finally have a girl! especially since I have someone coming out on Monday who is possibly interested in a doeling from this breeding or my doe due in June.
I don't like dead kids either - this is my first stillborn in 7 years. but better stillborn than dead in the next few days if there was something wrong with him. And with 5 live bucklings in the barn, it is hard to be too sad about a buckling I never really met.
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05/14/11, 10:00 PM
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Well thank goodness she finally decided to let those little one's out! Sorry about the dead buckling but sounds like that was out of your hands & you have 2 healthy babies & everyone sounds like their doing well.
Come on Alice, your does' still holding out huh?
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05/14/11, 10:03 PM
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Yes.  I'm going to have to look back on my calendar and see if she may have bred on the *next* cycle. She's just cheerful and poochie as she can be. Not quite bagged up enough though.
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