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mpete · #1 04/21/11, 11:29 AM

Is stamped on my forehead!!!
I bought my Saanen doe and was given her penmate.... A reg. Alpine doe who had been attacked by dogs a few months before. She was walking on her knees upto about 3 weeks ago where she improved to walking strangely on her feet. It's like watching a robot walk.

Its almost like her knees wont straighten out all the way, but it was a BAD attack so I am hopeful that with her being out walking around she will get better.
If I can get someone to tell me "once more" how to post pics, I will post a few.

jill.costello · #2 04/21/11, 11:34 AM

goto www.photobucket.com, create an accout. Click "upload pictures" and then browse your computer to ctrl-click all that you want to put on photobucket. when that's done, click "save to my album", then goto your album and hover your mouse over each picture until it gives you a bunch of codes; you will right-click and copy the code that starts with [IMG] and then paste it into a message on here. Repeat until all the pics are here, and then POST !!!

Oat Bucket Farm · #3 04/21/11, 11:37 AM

Has she been tested for CAE? Or were her knees involved in the attack?

Go to photobucket and get an account. Upload your photos there. Once they are uploaded, hover your pointer over the pic and links will pop up below the pic. Copy the IMG link and paste it here.

A link that looks like this

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/oatbucket11/goats/100_8342.jpg[/IMG

last ] removed so you can see the link

will become a pic like this

****sucker**** - Goats

LoneStrChic23 · #4 04/21/11, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oat Bucket Farm

Has she been tested for CAE? Or were her knees involved in the attack?

Go to photobucket and get an account. Upload your photos there. Once they are uploaded, hover your pointer over the pic and links will pop up below the pic. Copy the IMG link and paste it here.

A link that looks like this

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/oatbucket11/goats/100_8342.jpg[/IMG

last ] removed so you can see the link

will become a pic like this

****sucker**** - Goats

Dang it Audra!!! Between my daughter bugging me for a La Mancha, and your pictures, I'm doomed!!!! I know it's totally unrelated to the thread, but those babies are so stinking cute!

mpete · #5 04/21/11, 12:47 PM

I love those munchies!!! I will head out now and get some pics and get this started! Thank you... and yes she is CAE neg... that was my first question. The attack involved her legs, shoulders, chest, neck, hind quarters... I am REALLY suprised she lived at all

beccachow · #6 04/21/11, 12:49 PM

OBF, you are a breaker of unspoken rules. There I am, just reading through a thread, when *thud* I wake up on the floor, having been the victim of a Sneak Cuteness Overload.

Callie, RUN!!

prairiedog · #7 04/21/11, 12:50 PM

She really needs to get updated pics they are growing so fast.

mary,tx · #8 04/21/11, 12:58 PM

If you put photos on facebook, you can also upload them from there.

mpete · #9 04/21/11, 04:40 PM

mpete · #10 04/21/11, 04:42 PM

Hey!!! That was easy!!! lol

So she can't straighten her legs when standing, but she can when she is laying down. When she walks, she moves her lover legs, but not her shoulders. The previous owner said that 3 weeks ago she was only able to get on her knees. Any ideas to help her physical therepy? or do you think that just being out with the other goats will help her rehabilitate?

**mygoat** · #11 04/21/11, 08:05 PM

Not swollen knees, so I don't think it's CAE. I would bet some sort of nutrition issue, or just plain deformation. I would think that it is NOT an injury, for both to be injured in the exact same way would be very unlikely.

**mygoat** · #12 04/21/11, 08:14 PM

Here is a wonderful merk vet manual with further reading as to what causes lameness in goats.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/in...m/bc/90600.htm

I'll be reading it over, too. I've never seen legs like that. I would think rickets, but it looks like the legs are solid at the joints in a forward position - rickets usually has legs bowed in or out.

jill.costello · #13 04/21/11, 08:17 PM

If she can straighten them while laying down, but the ligaments tighten up when she stands, then I would bet that this IS related to her horrible shoulder/s injuries. I would massage her shoulders while she's laying down and stretch those legs gently....physical therapy, lol.

There are horse supplements available that have food-grade silica in them that help with tendon elasticity, etc.

Otherwise, if she has a will to live (obviously!) and she doesn't seem to be in pain, then just do as much as you can, when you can. Good Luck!

jill.costello · #14 04/21/11, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpete

Hey!!! That was easy!!! lol

So she can't straighten her legs when standing, but she can when she is laying down. When she walks, she moves her lover legs, but not her shoulders. The previous owner said that 3 weeks ago she was only able to get on her knees. Any ideas to help her physical therepy? or do you think that just being out with the other goats will help her rehabilitate?

This (in bold) is what makes me think it IS the horrible trauma to her body causing this....

melco · #15 04/21/11, 08:20 PM

Oat Bucket Farm, I swear I have the same babies right now. They are 4 week old bucklings. When I saw your pic I was trying to figure out how you got a picture of my littles. HAHA I can truly say you have pretty babies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oat Bucket Farm

Has she been tested for CAE? Or were her knees involved in the attack?

Go to photobucket and get an account. Upload your photos there. Once they are uploaded, hover your pointer over the pic and links will pop up below the pic. Copy the IMG link and paste it here.

A link that looks like this

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/oatbucket11/goats/100_8342.jpg[/IMG

last ] removed so you can see the link

will become a pic like this

****sucker**** - Goats

Oat Bucket Farm · #16 04/21/11, 09:46 PM

LOL, well the biggest difference then is that the two in my pic are doelings.

As far as the OP's goat, I would try massage. You say she has already improved, so maybe she will continue to do so. If she is actively trying to keep up with other goats then that might be the best therapy for her provided they don't pick on her.

Just a thought but for tendon problems in baby goats Bo-Se is recommended. Have you tried that with her yet?

mpete · #17 04/22/11, 12:57 AM

I just got her 2 days ago. I will give her a Bo-Se shot tomorrow. I was really suprised she lived through the attack at all... her neck wound is still healing... I put some neosporin on it to loosen up the thick nasty crusty scabs on her neck to allow some healthy healing after a good betadine scrub. Her other wounds have healed and there is hair growing back, but you can see she is needing a lot of help!
As for the massage, where would I start?
She was CAE neg tested last fall, so I am "assuming" she is still neg, but I have not sent off blood yet.
That horse litamint stuff, do you have to wrap it after applying it?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want her quality of life to be good, and I have never delt with a long-term disability... usually blood & guts I sew up and they are good to go, but this is the first tendon type issue I have had

jill.costello · #18 04/22/11, 01:18 AM

The rule with horses and liniment is: if you rub, don't wrap....too much heat. BUT, I might try DMSO... someone else jump in here on that, though...I use DMSO on my horses that need blood flow to an area for healing, but I know goats have a different metabolizm, so I don't want to advise wrong.

As for the massage, feel her shoulders and elbows and legs while she's laying down; flex the leg and find the upper connections inside the shoulder and just firmly massage with your palm and thumbs to help loosen the tendons that run from her shoulders all the way down the backs of her legs....those seem to be the ones that "lock" and won't let her straighten when standing.