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04/17/11, 11:20 AM
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Morbid question-graffic
yesterday when I came home I noticed a red kid lying in the pasture, send my son out while I secured the two human babies. I dont believe this kid could have been dead long, she wasnt even stiff and the mom was still hanging around her. The eyes looked dry but she really didnt present a reason for her death off hand. However she had maggots teeny tiny ones coming from her ear and also where on the front hoof, I expect that on a smelly one that has been dead for a couple of days. I checked the mom the night before and she still looked pregnant that morning, however I threw feed and ran.
Is it possible for maggots to appear within the 8 hours I was gone? The kid was very clean so mom did a good job with that, Im just hoping that some how things didnt get developed in the dam, I dont see anything abnormal but kinda puzzled.
Oh and the kicker, after having all bucklings it was a very nice looking doeling
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04/17/11, 11:54 AM
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What I read is it's 8-20 hours that the maggots can appear. I would have guessed they can appear even faster than that.
I'm sorry you lost your doeling
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04/17/11, 11:56 AM
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I thought it was at min 24 hours but I read way too much to keep it all strait.
The kid didnt even feel cold its just boggling my mind
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04/17/11, 12:26 PM
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I'm so sorry you lost the little doeling!
I wonder if your having really warm humid temp's if maggots could appear faster maybe?
Did the Cydectin get to you yet?
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04/17/11, 12:30 PM
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Maggots boggle my mind. Every summer we treat infestations on dogs at the vet clinic. We get everything shaved off and cleaned up and a little while later there are more showing up. It's hard to get all the eggs and they just keep hatching! ugh. I hate those cases. We even had a dog die from maggots.
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04/17/11, 12:35 PM
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rigor mortis wears off in time. My guess is that she was dead long enough for the maggots to hatch.
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04/17/11, 01:12 PM
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A single kid could have the doe still looking pregnant, or as pregnant as she did before.
chamoisee is right, 1st rigor wears off and it takes a while for second rigor to set in. Add in a warm climate, and she may have just SEEMED freshly dead. Especially if she had been laying in the sun shine.
So sorry you lost your doeling.
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04/17/11, 01:33 PM
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Yes, I got the cydectin, thank you so much I meant to email you yesterday but I had one of those days I dont think a single thing went right. Today Im feeling better than I have in a few months so Im cleaning house today, my kids have been slackers and doing the minumum so its been a catch up day. Do you know how much sweepings I found under the rug that was tucked up under the hutch we put in front of a door during winter  it was gross, my daughter better be glad shes gone for the weekend.
Im wondering as a though, she had this kid 3 days after I gave the cydectin would that have effected the kid you think or just a run of bad luck? I have a doe due any time now so Im nervous.
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04/17/11, 01:55 PM
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I read that they can hatch in 6 hours. She was cleaned well but did you notice if it looked like she had even moved? She may have been born dead  I'm sorry for your and the doe's loss.
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04/17/11, 02:17 PM
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she looked like she was curled up sleeping. Her eyes where already dried out. she seemed full term, I didnt have a bred date on her but knew it could be just anytime. We had a really bad storm the night before I wonder if she drowned or mom left and she wasnt strong enough to follow yet. Yesterday mom was laying under my husbandry stand which is a taller milk stand and the kid was about 10 foot from there I checked on her and it seemed she was just laying in the shade.
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04/17/11, 04:13 PM
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Cydectin is safe for pregnant does' so I don't think that was it. Also that's what I use when they kid so if your thinking it got through the milk & to the kid, I don't think that would kill her either.
I wish I knew what could have happened.
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04/17/11, 06:49 PM
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kid 3 days after I gave the cydectin
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I don't give it to preggo does, but I don't think it would kill a kid- how sad all around though!
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