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Old 04/16/11, 12:07 PM
 
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Goat's favorite forages, fodder, etc

These are plants I'm trying to incorporate into the landscape I hope to create for a dairy goat farm one day. I've gleaned this info from various sources so what I'm hoping for is that some of you have experience with these plants and goats and can tell me if they like them. Also, if you have any more in mind or have seen your goats eat it preferentially please include. Thanks

Alfalfa
Kudzu
Lambsquarters
Tagataste
Sericea Lespedeza
Sunflower Seeds
Chicory
Comfery
Honeysuckle
Stinging Nettles
Mangels
Jerusalem Artichokes
Velvetleaf?
Amaranth?
Acorns?
Epimedium
Thistles
Purple Deadnettle
Leafy Spurge (invasive)
Dandelion
Yarrow
Matua
Blackberries/Raspberries
Tribulus
Clovers
Cannabis
Wheatgrass
Sage
Mustard
Chamomile
Borage
Lovage
Echinacea
Apios Americana
Perennial Sunflowers
Alfalfa, clover, wheatgrass hay mix, and comfrey?
Red alder, redcedar, salmonberry
Squash
Kale
Honey and Black Locust
Capers
Alfalfa, Italian ryegrass hay mix
Eleagnus
Weeping Willow
Poplar
Sugar Maple
Buckwheat
Mimosa
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Old 04/16/11, 12:08 PM
 
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Goji Berry Shrubs
Seabuckthorn shrubs
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Old 04/16/11, 12:26 PM
 
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Pecan trees and mulberry trees
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Old 04/16/11, 12:33 PM
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They will not eat stinging nettles fresh. You can, however, if you cook them. The goats may eat them if they are dried. I would leave out the leafy spurge....I could be wrong but it seems that I have heard that it has a milky sap that irritates the mouths of grazing animals...plus, it is invasive.

I also would not put locust near them, although it could be used as a hedge tree farther away from them...the thorns can get stuck in their hooves. Red alder and willow are both good in a goat pasture or for coppicing and feeding the shoots. Serviceberries are also very much appreciated by goats. :-)
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Old 04/16/11, 02:24 PM
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I would have second thoughts about adding kudzu. I have heard that goats really like it, but unless you have A LOT of goats to control it, it can take over your landscape, killing many of your other plants. There are whole stands of trees around here that are just dead wood now standing completely covered in the stuff.
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Old 04/16/11, 09:21 PM
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You don't have any of MY goat's favorite things to eat in there!

Roses
Marigolds
Petunias
Rose of Sharon
Wisteria
Anything else in my mother's flower beds......
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Old 04/16/11, 09:28 PM
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Swamp rose, birdsfoot trefoil, flax, umm, how are you going to get away with the cannabis?
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Gotcha, mulberries, pecans, serviceberries, and marigolds will all work exceptionally well on the permaculture farm in my mind. As far as the kudzu, my plan is to build something for the goats to climb on in each pasture portion of each paddock and on a few of these stands plant the kudzu all around it. That way I can just mow around the stands to control it. Either this or plant it along a few of the fences. I'm expecting to do a few hours a week of machete work as part of my exercise routine.

Keep the plants coming! Hopefully I'll have enough to provide the goats with a wide variety of food choices at every paddock rotation.
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Old 04/16/11, 09:35 PM
 
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Hmm, good ideas, I need to look these up. Get away with cannabis? You mean it doesn't grow naturally in these parts... Seems kinda crazy to lock a brother up for something God grows..


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Old 04/16/11, 09:43 PM
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Cannabis ruderalis grows naturally and along railroad tracks all through the midwest

But yes, they will still lock a brother up if they find it growing wild. You'll probably get out of it as long as the lab comes back with the species being cannabis ruderalis.... since the only thing you will get from smoking it is a headache.

But if the lab finds it is cannabis sativa or cannabis indica, then a brother's gonna do some time. And yes, a simple gas spectrometer will allow them to know what kind it is.... and those are available for $600 on e-bay, nearly every department can afford one.

Just trying to be helpful and keep a brother from getting dissed by da MAN.
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Old 04/16/11, 10:11 PM
 
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Aw well I guess it'll have to grow naturally on my property interspersed between similar looking plants. Super silver haze, afghan kush, and white widow, bump that ruderalis stuff, only the best for these goats.


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Cannabis ruderalis grows naturally and along railroad tracks all through the midwest

But yes, they will still lock a brother up if they find it growing wild. You'll probably get out of it as long as the lab comes back with the species being cannabis ruderalis.... since the only thing you will get from smoking it is a headache.

But if the lab finds it is cannabis sativa or cannabis indica, then a brother's gonna do some time. And yes, a simple gas spectrometer will allow them to know what kind it is.... and those are available for $600 on e-bay, nearly every department can afford one.

Just trying to be helpful and keep a brother from getting dissed by da MAN.
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Old 04/16/11, 11:59 PM
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Goat's favorite forages, fodder, etc
Anything you don't want them to eat.
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Old 04/17/11, 12:02 AM
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I would have second thoughts about adding kudzu. I have heard that goats really like it, but unless you have A LOT of goats to control it, it can take over your landscape, killing many of your other plants. There are whole stands of trees around here that are just dead wood now standing completely covered in the stuff.
Not only that, but in many southern states it is considered a noxious weed and it is forbidden to grow it intentionally.
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Anything you don't want them to eat.
Exactly.
Anything you want to keep and don't want them to touch, is their favorite food. Like grape vines, fruit trees, perennial flowers, etc
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Old 04/17/11, 01:00 AM
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Oh. They are quite fond of peas.
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Old 04/17/11, 01:01 AM
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Oops, strike the flax. While the seeds are edible it seems the green plant can cause upset do to acid content.
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Calendula are good for them too and an easy annual.
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Old 04/18/11, 02:22 AM
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Gotcha, mulberries, pecans, serviceberries, and marigolds will all work exceptionally well on the permaculture farm in my mind. As far as the kudzu, my plan is to build something for the goats to climb on in each pasture portion of each paddock and on a few of these stands plant the kudzu all around it. That way I can just mow around the stands to control it. Either this or plant it along a few of the fences. I'm expecting to do a few hours a week of machete work as part of my exercise routine.

Keep the plants coming! Hopefully I'll have enough to provide the goats with a wide variety of food choices at every paddock rotation.
I heard a good one at a permaculture course lately: "work is a failure in design" So maybe leave the kudzu out and let the goats do the machete work for you! I have heard similar reservations about sea buckthorn...still cogitating on it for our situation.
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Old 04/18/11, 08:59 AM
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Mine aren't keen on velvetleaf, or amaranth, if you mean what we call "red-root pigweed". They do eat burdock and have completely cleared all the milkweed out of my pastures. They won't eat cockleburrs - that's the one weed I have to go root out manually.

Oh, and one of my bottle kids pretty much ate down the rhubarb patch last year. I've also seen the kids eating deadly nightshade.
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I would have second thoughts about adding kudzu. I have heard that goats really like it, but unless you have A LOT of goats to control it, it can take over your landscape, killing many of your other plants. There are whole stands of trees around here that are just dead wood now standing completely covered in the stuff.
Kudzu is not really that hard to control. When I lived in Alabama it grew all around us, but we never had problems with it in our yard or on our trees, as long as you mow your lawn, you shouldn't have problems with it.
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