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Old 04/13/11, 01:06 PM
 
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What is happening and should I be worried?

I have a almost 4 week old Angora bottle baby. We have had her since she was 2 weeks old. All along she has been drinking a 6-9 ounce bottle of fresh goats milk 4 times a day. Saturday we wormed her with Valbazen and started her on kid/lamb pellets and alfalfa pellets. This morning she refused her bottle. She doesn't seem sick, and is running and jumping around in her stall happily. What is happening here?
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Old 04/13/11, 01:09 PM
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Have you started her on coccidia prevention?
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Old 04/13/11, 01:15 PM
 
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I am picking up Corid, which had to be ordered for me, at the feed store today.
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Old 04/13/11, 01:40 PM
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They can have pain from coccidia without acting like much is wrong.
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Old 04/13/11, 02:57 PM
 
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The Corid is down the hatch, but she still won't take a bottle. How long can she go without her bottle? She did eat a couple handfuls of alfalfa pellets and kid/lamb feed last night or over night. She drank about 6 ounces of milk at bedtime.
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Old 04/13/11, 03:20 PM
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You know you have to give Corid for five days, right? How much did you give her, and what does she weigh?
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Old 04/13/11, 03:31 PM
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Here are the doses:

http://www.dairygoatinfo.com/index.php?topic=9125.0

It will take a little time. The Corid doesn't work real fast, it doesn't flat out kill the coccidia. Rather it cuts off a nutrient that allows them to grow the last, and destructive, stage of their life. An antiinflammatory, like banamine, will help with the pain and help prevent scarring.
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Old 04/13/11, 04:59 PM
 
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Yes, I know it will take time. I'm hoping not to lose her while I wait for it to work, though, so that's why I asked how long she can go without her bottle. I can give her sub-q fluids, of needed, or even tube feed her. I just need a little guidance. Where do I get banamine? If it has to be ordered, I may not get it til next week.
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Old 04/13/11, 05:23 PM
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Banamine is from the vet.
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I checked with the vet. She doesn't have banamine.
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Old 04/13/11, 07:02 PM
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Banamine is a brand name, the generic name is Flunixin meglumine
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Old 04/13/11, 08:41 PM
 
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I'll have to check with another vet, I guess. She knew what it is. She raises meat goats herself, but I guess she doesn't use it. My son did get Yolanda to take a bottle, finally, this evening, but he had to be pretty pushy about it. Hopefully we can get her to take one more before bed time.
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Old 04/13/11, 09:17 PM
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I wouldn't push another on her today. Wait till tomorrow.
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Old 04/13/11, 09:53 PM
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I always start cocci prevention at 3 weeks of age but I am a bit confused I guess why Alice & Southerngurl think it's cocci this little one has?

She said she was acting normal, jumping & playing but just didn't want her bottle.
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Old 04/13/11, 10:01 PM
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Coccidia will cause stomach pain/discomfort that will cause them to go off feed. However, it isn't always bad enough they don't run around and play. They are just afraid to eat because it activates the inflamed digestive system.
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Old 04/13/11, 10:04 PM
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I guess I understood the OP that the little doeling was eating lamb/goat pellets & alfafa pellets just didn't want the bottle?

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Old 04/13/11, 10:21 PM
 
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She ate the pellets last night, but hasn't eaten any of them today. If you don't think we should try to get her to take another bottle tonight, we won't.
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Old 04/13/11, 10:32 PM
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I would definitely offer it. Does she still have normal pellets?
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Old 04/14/11, 12:04 AM
 
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Ok. I'm sending my son to see if she will take a bottle. He was who got her to drink it earlier. Her poop was more normal today than it had been. Before today she had gotten poop smeared on my shirt when I held her.
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Old 04/14/11, 10:25 AM
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How is your little one doing today, hope she's doing much better & eating for you.
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