Worming woes

[Cannon_Farms]

SO, started off I was going to give valsaban, well there is no milk withdrawl known and Im pregnant, considering it can cause birth defects in pregnant does I changed my mind about using it with me being pregnant. So, my mentor gives me in trade cydectin injectable, but once again no milk withdrawl, there is none on quest either. The pour on cydectin has no withdrawl for milk but is very pricey for me right now.
So Im stuck on what to use

[mekasmom]

I always preferred simply using ivermectin 4cc per hundred pounds for pregnant does.

[Creamers]

Can't you just do quest?

[Cannon_Farms]

quest says not for horses ment for human consumption, most other wormers have a withdrawl time for meat horses.
My does are not pregnant, im just woried about me being pregnant and it causing my baby harm with the valsaban

[CaliannG]

Cydectin also has no slaughter withdrawal, meaning there is nothing in the system that can harm humans.

~shrugs~ I'd use the Cydectin just because of that... because if you eat beef in things from the store, then someone likely passed through that had just been wormed with it, since it has a 0-day slaughter with-holding too.

[Cannon_Farms]

But that is only on the pour on, not the injectable or quest. I doubt many folks would use such an expensive wormer and then send the beef to the market, and if it was sick and they are sending it to slaughter most likely it wouldnt pass for human consumption anyway

[CaliannG]

Well, then, what is the slaughter withholding for the injectable? If you are worried about consuming wormer with milk due to the baby (a real worry nowadays!) and there is not a milk withholding, use the slaughter withholding instead.

I searched for it, but I cannot find a milk withholding for Cydectin even for touchy cases...but I also don't see a history of birth defects from it either.

[steff bugielski]

Have you tried Molly's Herbal wormer. I have been using it for a number of years now with zero chemicals. It works and it is safe. Give it a try then if you still need to add a chemical it might only be one or two goats once in a while.

[Cannon_Farms]

Mollys has wormwood in it, known to cause abortion. Slaughter withdraw for cydectin injectable is 21 days not very practical, thats throwing out over 65 gallons of milk here.

Cydectin isnt known for causing birth defects as much as it is abortion

[nehimama]

How many does are you milking? Perhaps you could worm those that need it the most, leaving one or two untreated so you can drink their milk safely. Once a period of time passes that you are comfortable with, drink the milk from the others, and worm the ones that haven't yet been wormed. Would that work for you?

[Alice In TX/MO]

If you use herbal dewormers, remember that some ingredients are NOT safe for pregnant women, either.

[Backfourty,MI.]

I was thinking the same thing as nehimama suggested. Maybe only worm a certain number of your does' & don't worm the 2 your going to drink the milk from until you feel safe drinking the milk from the does' wormed previously.

How much of the Cydectin Pour on would you need? I can put some in a bottle & mail it to you?

[Cannon_Farms]

Im only milking two and a half does, meaning one depends on if the kids did a good enough job or if she has extra milk.
I was hoping to do one of two things, find a solution to my issue or at least let folks know somethings are not as easy as it seems.
brb

[nehimama]

"Two and a half does". Well, that makes things a bit more difficult for you, then, doesn't it? Sorry!

[Backfourty,MI.]

For only a few does' I will be happy to send you some Cydectin if you want me too.

[Cannon_Farms]

The Saanen is the one I cant worm mainly as currently the Nubian's milk is feeding the presents the buck fairy left
I have to figure out the weights on the does and if you can sell or trade me some for some copper that would be great.
I normally use the quest on the rest of the herd b/c Im lazy and its easy. I didnt realize that worming a milk goat could be so complicated, I kinda did the quest on the does last year while milking, we all lived but I still worry.

[Backfourty,MI.]

Figure out your weights & send me a PM, I can get it in the mail tomarrow, will that be early enough?

[Cheribelle]

It all takes on a new worry when you're pregant. I don't have your answers, but I know what you're going thru. I don't think I even took an aspirin while pregnant.

[Lada]

If I were that concerned, I would just worm with Ivermectin. It's probably the safest chemical wormer you can get, they use it on people in other countries. Ditto what other folks said re:herbal wormers and wormwood. Although I think Molly's offers a wormwood-free version that she uses on her pregnant does.

[HappyFarmer]

If I were pregnant and drinking my goats milk I would dry-lot the doe. No worm cycle to worry about therefore no wormer needed. May not work as well or cheaply if you are pooling goats milk for personal use but if you could keep that doe's milk seperate...

Or perhaps try garlic, though I don't know how effective the garlic treatment is or if it effects the taste of the milk.

HF