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04/10/11, 03:42 PM
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Oy..I must be crazy..
So..... I looked at this doe several months ago...loved her. She wasn't for sale....then recently she became available so I sent funds, drove a few hours to pick her up and was kind of bummed....Probably the worse case of copper deficientcy I've seen and her coat was horrible....not just shaggy winter mess.....just awful. So bad that as soon as I got her settled I shaved it off.....she has wattles so I just skipped shavingg her upper neck/head but will make her hair cut "pretty" after she gets used to everything and us....
Plus she has an eye injury.....not sure what happened, but the vet has me putting Terramyacin in it twice daily.....he flushed it for me, and said to keep it doctored.
She needs groceries IMO, but I've been told I keep my girls too fat....so maybe she just looks awful to me because I'm comparing her to my sassy, "fat" and sleek girls..
Anywho....hubby was a bit peeved when I got home with her as he didn't want me to have a "fixer-upper" but she was way too sweet to leave..... She's been home a few days now and is settling in well, took these pictures earlier today and will try to get some better ones later. She has mile long legs, and I know she'll be quite striking once she's had some copper and groceries.
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04/10/11, 03:51 PM
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Look at that beautiful face! She's happy to be rescued; I can see it in her eyes.
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04/10/11, 03:54 PM
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She looks skiney to me to, but I bet once you get her fed up she will fill out nicely. She is real pretty besides needing fed and if she is sweet you have it made.
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04/10/11, 04:01 PM
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You're quite right - definitely in need of groceries. But what a sweet face! I don't see how you could have done anything else but bring her home. 
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04/10/11, 04:06 PM
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She looks like a real sweetheart and very happy to be saved!  Congrats to you!
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04/10/11, 04:18 PM
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I'm so glad you brought her home even though you knew hubby wouldn't be happy, she is definately going to be well cared for now!
I also think she's too skinney but all my goats are pretty Sassy as you'd call it too.
What did you name her?
I can hardly wait to see her transformation in a few months too.
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04/10/11, 04:23 PM
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awww. She probably thinks she's gone to Heaven. I'm looking forward to pics of her improvement over the next several months. You have a good heart!
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04/10/11, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
Look at that beautiful face! She's happy to be rescued; I can see it in her eyes.
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She is a doll! Very sweet, leads well and easy to handle....even doctoring her eye is easy to do because she's so cooperative.
Her breeder bottle raised her so I think that has a lot to do with it. I'm her second owner since she left her breeder...
She wasn't abused by the people I bought her from...they are just raising goats on outdated info...not using copper, no free choice alfalfa, high molasses feed, no coccidia prevention in kids ect. ect.
She looked great when I saw her about 7 months ago when she 6-7 months old.... so I think a lot of her problems will be solved after I get her bolused & let her tank up on some alfalfa
She FINALLY realized the alfalfa pellets are unlimited...she inhaled them...then kept going back over to make sure they were still there...she'd go lay down, rest for a bit, then for no apparent reason, she'd jump up, run and check the feeder, grab a tiny bite, then go lay down again.. Today she finally quit constantly checking the feeder 
Her feet aren't overgrown though and she tested CAE negative 2 weeks ago so she has potential.
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04/10/11, 04:34 PM
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she isnt in milk now it doesnt look like, is she open or bred? after she gets about a week of grocerys in her (a week can do wonders) if she is open i would strongly see about getting her to breed if she comes into heat, i wouldnt want her to pack on too much padding in an open dry state or you may regret it later,
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04/10/11, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KSALguy
she isnt in milk now it doesnt look like, is she open or bred? after she gets about a week of grocerys in her (a week can do wonders) if she is open i would strongly see about getting her to breed if she comes into heat, i wouldnt want her to pack on too much padding in an open dry state or you may regret it later,
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No, she's open right now....no way would I want one of my does to kid in this heat...we've already had 2 days over 100°!
I'll be breeding her in September/October for Spring 2012 kids.
Won't get her FAT, but I also won't have a goat who I can see every bone on.....the picturesjust don't show how skinny she is.....even my 8 year old son wanted to know why our new goat had butt bones poking out like sticks...
Pictured below is my FF Mini Alpine "Tootsie" who kidded in December and is milking at least 6lbs per day...vet came out to doctor my new girl and said Tootsie was TOO FAT... I disagree and think she's perfect
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04/10/11, 05:04 PM
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She's very pretty! I'm sure you'll have her fixed up in no time!
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04/10/11, 06:10 PM
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Your vet doesn't know what he's talking about. That doe is in beautiful condition! You can see her bone structure, which is what you want in a dairy animal, but she's not covered in lard.
Love the angle of the hind feet in the first picture - "Hey Mom, look how crooked I can stand!" 
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04/10/11, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pookshollow
Your vet doesn't know what he's talking about. That doe is in beautiful condition! You can see her bone structure, which is what you want in a dairy animal, but she's not covered in lard.
Love the angle of the hind feet in the first picture - "Hey Mom, look how crooked I can stand!" |
Thank you.... I'm very pleased with the results copper, good food and a haircut gave us on Tootsie...all of her black is actually glossy black now instead of burnt looking and she's filled out so nicely. But the vet thinks she's fat, lol
And LOL on her stance....she had just turned a full circle to reach for a treat and I snapped the picture one second too soon!!! If I had waited one second, she would have been perfect as she stepped forward and straightened out....but she didn't stay that way...of course when I tried for another shot she had moved again 
I've learned with goats & pictures, too just take what you can get
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04/10/11, 07:26 PM
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Awww, give her a kiss for me. She is lucky she found you!
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04/10/11, 07:51 PM
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Love the length of hip on your new doe. Bet she'll have a nicely attached udder under there. Be sure and post 'after' photos once you get her fattened up!
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04/10/11, 08:16 PM
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That poor girl is so skinny! Oh, she is lucky you brought her home. Tell your DH that even fixer-uppers need love too.
(My DH complains that the only kind of horse that I like is one that needs 6 months of TLC before you can do anything with it.)
E.T.A. I'm glad that pookshollow thinks Tootsie is "just right", because my goats look just like her (well padded chest, etc) and everyone always tells me how fat they are too.
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04/10/11, 10:14 PM
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Aww, what a sweet and beautiful face! Yes she needs groceries but with copper and fod she will look great in no time.
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04/11/11, 09:25 AM
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There's a big difference between "body capacity" (ie well-sprung ribs and a well-developed rumen) and "fat". If you can grasp a handful of pudge behind their elbows, they're fat! If you can run your hands down their spines, and not find a spine, they're fat!
I've been seeing a tendency for fat dairy goats to win in the showring, and I must say it really bothers me. Dairy "character" is part of the scorecard, and a fat goat is not exhibiting it - to my mind, anyway! She's converting food to fat, not milk. OK, off my soapbox.
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04/11/11, 04:01 PM
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We 'inherited' a pair of free LaMancha/Pygmy crosses last fall. We hadn't intended to have goats at all, but these poor goatees were in such poor condition, we had to take them. We haven't regretted a minute. They follow us around like dogs and we are looking forward to kids and milk in another couple months.
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04/11/11, 06:35 PM
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I also disagree with your vet, I think Tootsie looks Great! I'd hate for him to see my goats.
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