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03/28/11, 10:35 AM
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scabs coming off/disbudding
I dont remember how many weeks it has been since we disbudded the doelings. I am thinking around 3-4 weeks. Today their scabs are coming off and it is nasty! On two of the girls one of their scabs on both of them is icky! it stinks and its gooey. Is this normal? It sorta reminds me of when my human babies had their umbilical cord come off. I had a hard time keeping it dry and it often would get gooey and stinky. Should I do anything for the doelings or will they be okay? I have stuff like medicated golds bond (i think that is what it is called) powder.
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03/28/11, 12:57 PM
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I dont remember how many weeks it has been since we disbudded the doelings. I am thinking around 3-4 weeks. Today their scabs are coming off and it is nasty! On two of the girls one of their scabs on both of them is icky! it stinks and its gooey. Is this normal? It sorta reminds me of when my human babies had their umbilical cord come off. I had a hard time keeping it dry and it often would get gooey and stinky. Should I do anything for the doelings or will they be okay? I have stuff like medicated golds bond (i think that is what it is called) powder.
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Gold Bond medicated powder is NOT what you should use on open wounds least of all infected ones. Is there pus or is it just bloody? If it seems infected and it sounds like it is if it stinks, I'd use hydrogen peroxide and DAB with cotton balls (hold their head up - don't let it run in there eyes), gently get it cleaned out and glob on some neosporin or maybe furozone (sp?) spray. Can you post a picture of them?
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03/28/11, 01:06 PM
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I can get some pictures yes. I flipped one of the scabs off and it didn't end up looking as bad as I thought it would be. when the scab was still on it looked a lot worse. Now its just reddish, a little fluid and a little ooze. I will get pictures up before tonight. That was just one scab on one doeling. I have 2 other potential icky scabs
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03/28/11, 01:06 PM
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Not normal at all--listen to KimM and take her advice asap!!!
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03/28/11, 01:06 PM
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I don't know why it would have gotten infected as the disbudder should cauterize and sterilize the wound all at the same time, but it certainly sounds like it if it's stinky and gooey. There is a spray called Vetericyn that is EXCELLENT! It's kind of expensive, but the gel version that kind of sticks to the wound just can't be beat for healing and is excellent for infection. You can call around to feed stores or vet supplies and get it. It works faster and better than anything we've ever used.
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I went back and looked and you disbudded on March 8th. I am wondering if the homemade disbudder cause it? Were they the only ones you used it one? Or are the others fine?
I would not use peroxide, it is damaging. I hate to even touch it as it eats my skin. You have any Dial soap? Or Bactine? I would wash it and then if you have Furall, which is now discontinued, wonder dust or some other type of dry wound treatment I would use it. Not blood stop though that has nothing to do with healing. If they go off feed or start acting off I would take their temps and if they have one would start antibiotics.
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03/28/11, 01:08 PM
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I don't know why it would have gotten infected as the disbudder should cauterize and sterilize the wound all at the same time, but it certainly sounds like it if it's stinky and gooey. There is a spray called Vetericyn that is EXCELLENT! It's kind of expensive, but the gel version that kind of sticks to the wound just can't be beat for healing and is excellent for infection. You can call around to feed stores or vet supplies and get it. It works faster and better than anything we've ever used.
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Oh my yes, this stuff works great! Worth the money.
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03/28/11, 01:10 PM
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I went back and looked and you disbudded on March 8th. I am wondering if the homemade disbudder cause it? Were they the only ones you used it one? Or are the others fine?
I would not use peroxide, it is damaging. I hate to even touch it as it eats my skin. You have any Dial soap? Or Bactine? I would wash it and then if you have Furall, which is now discontinued, wonder dust or some other type of dry wound treatment I would use it. Not blood stop though that has nothing to do with healing. If they go off feed or start acting off I would take their temps and if they have one would start antibiotics.
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Peroxide is fine and recommended when there's damaged, infected tissue. It should not be used on fresh wounds. Betadine scrub or strong iodine would work well too.
I was also wondering about the homemade disbudder - some metals when heated emit chemicals. If the bolt (I think you used) was galvinized or coated, it may have caused a problem.
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03/28/11, 01:11 PM
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Oh my yes, this stuff works great! Worth the money.
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Yes it does!!! We used it on some infection on one of our horses and while I balked at the price at first, it is worth every penny and goes a long ways! I know a girl that had a hysterectomy and used that spray on herself. It's awesome stuff!
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03/28/11, 01:13 PM
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I went back and looked and you disbudded on March 8th. I am wondering if the homemade disbudder cause it? Were they the only ones you used it one? Or are the others fine?
I would not use peroxide, it is damaging. I hate to even touch it as it eats my skin. You have any Dial soap? Or Bactine? I would wash it and then if you have Furall, which is now discontinued, wonder dust or some other type of dry wound treatment I would use it. Not blood stop though that has nothing to do with healing. If they go off feed or start acting off I would take their temps and if they have one would start antibiotics.
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I wondered that too. Perhaps, because the nut is a hole all the way through, that it's not burning the top and sides of the horn bud the way a disbudder does and so leaving it kind of open to infection? I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
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03/28/11, 01:27 PM
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yes the homemade disbudder.
One goat is entirely fine. One goat has both of them kind of icky and the third just has one. But I have never had goats long enough to have the scabs come off so perhaps I just dont know what to expect to see? Anyways. pics will come. I am getting my children sent off with daddy to go do some work. Soon as they leave i will go take pics
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03/28/11, 01:30 PM
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They may look normal. Ours when the scabs come off just look red. No bleeding, no oozing, no nothing. Could it be that the disbudder was cooler on some rather than others? If you're heating with a torch....maybe it got too cool between horns or something? Or who knows. May have just been a fluke.
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03/28/11, 01:35 PM
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it only bled a bit on edges. (the part that will stay a part of the head)
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03/28/11, 01:36 PM
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I'm sure someone will know more than I.  Good luck with them!
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03/28/11, 02:12 PM
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well now that the head dried it looks fine i guess. I think it just looked icky when it was still wet after I took the scab off. Anyways- here is a pic of the head of the one i took the scab off and herei s the head of the doe I think has good scabs going. She was about a week older than the other one and had much bigger buds.
and the last one is my third doeling.. with her scab half off. You can see it bled a little. But I think that is because my 12 yr old daughter messed with it a little prematurely.. but this is the one that was a bit stinky. its not stinky anymore because it dried
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Looks pretty normal to me 
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03/28/11, 02:24 PM
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now that the scab is half off- should i make sure the rest comes off or wait for it? (this reminds me of my days of hatching baby chicks in the incubator lol)
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03/28/11, 02:28 PM
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I would just let it do it's thing. I never pick at mine.
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03/28/11, 02:38 PM
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thanks! i figured its probably like hatching chicks... patience!
I knew a woman who didn't flick the cap off a buckling when she disbudded and it never came off- the goat had scurred badly. i know this is a little different because its the scab but I had to make sure.
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03/28/11, 03:37 PM
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Picture 2 looks normal to me but 1 and 3 do not. I have had 40+ kids disbudded over the past 4 years and I have not seen that before. Mine heal up and never had that happen. Maybe it is normal but I have not personally seen it.
I would not pick at it and keep a close eye on it. I really would wash it with something and if they re-scab leave it be.
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