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03/19/11, 08:07 PM
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What to do with DOA kids?
Sorry if this is a rather morbid question, but what do you do with kids that die during kidding?
Bury? Compost?
Would it be worthwhile to do a quick butcher job on the DOA kid for dog food?
The doe put feed and energy into making the kid; it seems a total waste to just dispose of it.
Again, sorry if this offends anyone.
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03/19/11, 08:12 PM
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Finely ground for cat food here.
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03/19/11, 08:37 PM
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I take them out and leave the carcass in the forest.
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03/19/11, 09:18 PM
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I gave my dead buckling to the guy down the road from me.....he butchered it and used it for bait for wild hogs.
If he wouldn't have taken it, I probably would have buried him.... I don't have the nerve to butcher anything yet and couldn't keep a dead baby around waiting for someone to process it for me.
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03/19/11, 09:53 PM
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Compost might not be a bad idea, IMO.
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03/19/11, 09:57 PM
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I toss them to the dogs and they clean it up pretty fast. I have Pyrs.
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03/20/11, 01:39 AM
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I put them in the trash and take them to the dump. A couple years ago a friend had to put down a deformed kid at birth. We butchered it and I cooked it for dinner. There wasn't enough meat on that little thing to make it worth butchering.
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03/20/11, 02:06 AM
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I thought I could feed it to the dogs, they wouldn't care...but I just couldn't do it. Same with the baby bunnies that die, I just can't force my self to feed em to the dogs, so I bury them. The bunnies go in the wood stove...
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03/20/11, 04:54 AM
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I thought an archeologist a thousand years hence will have a blast with all the "votive shaft graves", ie, planter boxes bottomed with animal carcasses, that he or she will find here.
They'll no doubt assume religious significance and postulate about the meaning in the combinations of yard rabbits, chicken heads, and goat legs found in columns of soil.
Most of my dead animals get buried in raised beds.
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03/20/11, 07:33 AM
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You could actually give it to your dogs not butchered & they will clean up most of it & leave what they don't want.
It's not morbid, it's just something that has to be taken care of. It's one of those jobs that none of us like but sometimes it happens.
We've only had 1 doe have still born baby before & we took it out to the compost pile.
I can't even give the dead baby rabbits to my dogs, I just can't do it.
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03/20/11, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by natty threads
I thought an archeologist a thousand years hence will have a blast with all the "votive shaft graves", ie, planter boxes bottomed with animal carcasses, that he or she will find here.
They'll no doubt assume religious significance and postulate about the meaning in the combinations of yard rabbits, chicken heads, and goat legs found in columns of soil.
Most of my dead animals get buried in raised beds.
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 Oh, natty, that is a GREAT idea! I am going to remember that!
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03/20/11, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by natty threads
I thought an archeologist a thousand years hence will have a blast with all the "votive shaft graves", ie, planter boxes bottomed with animal carcasses, that he or she will find here.
They'll no doubt assume religious significance and postulate about the meaning in the combinations of yard rabbits, chicken heads, and goat legs found in columns of soil.
Most of my dead animals get buried in raised beds.
Yah bless!
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Likely they will think they found another missing link.
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03/20/11, 07:36 PM
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I would feed it to my dogs.
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03/20/11, 10:48 PM
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Oh, and I really don't thing it's a morbid subject...we just have to face it when there's livestock..there's bound to be dead stock...
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03/21/11, 06:20 AM
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When we loose one, we usually just burn it or trash it. Try to compost and the cats or the dogs will drag it out - just what I need, a chewed on goat leg - or worse - head - laying in the yard to explain to the 'city' milk customers.
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03/21/11, 09:14 AM
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Like others on here have said, DOA's are great food for the Gr.Pyr. No mess, no cutting in parts, just take it to 'um.
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03/21/11, 09:51 AM
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kid skin is exceptionally fine leather...when I worked on a dairy, the dead kids would be skinned and the tanned hides were like butter. The carcass would be dropped way out in the forest for the foxes. I like the idea of feeding the dogs and cats though. Not the LGD, though, cause wouldn't that give it the taste of goat?
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03/21/11, 10:33 AM
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No it does not give them a taste for goats, they know it is dead and they need to "Clean it up". I just do not like it because I hate the thought of them crunching and eating the heads. No I am not cutting those off for them  I do not love my dogs THAT much, lol.
I prefer to bury them. But if the dogs see me doing it they will dig them up later and eat them. Or if I put them in the garage to bury them later, the dogs might get to it first.
But they leave the live kids alone. They know they will get the snot beat out of them by the does for even trying to clean the baby butts of the tasty orange poop
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03/21/11, 10:47 AM
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Finely ground for cat food here.
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What kind of grinder do you use for this? Does it grind bones and all? Do you have to cut the animal into pieces or what? Maybe morbid, but could you explain the process you use? If it ever happens to me, I'd want to feed it to the dogs/cats too and I think they'd be more likely to eat it if it's ground up first.
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03/21/11, 12:05 PM
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Truthfully, cut up into pieces that will fit, and then directly into my food processor, set on "puree". Kid bones are super soft, so the processor handles it just fine, and yes, bones and all. It is good for cats.
If you want to go manual, the cast iron sausage grinder with the fine grinding hub works well too. Truthfully, though, that is the one time when I REALLY prefer the push-button. I am not all THAT squeamish, but I am a little bit, and I want that chore over and done with ASAP.
Like Jcran said, if you have the ability to do so, skin them first. The leather makes terrific baby clothes.
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