Wormer?

[rustyshacklefor]

Has anyone used the herbal wormer from Hoegger? If so any success?

[Creamers]

A few good friends of mine use it between actual wormers - like Cydectin - and find it works okay.

[LoneStrChic23]

I want to try using Molly's Herbals dewormer once I get around to ordering it.....

That being said, I would never ditch chemical dewormers entirely...not in my parasite breeding southern climate.

[LFRJ]

Can I tag on another worming question? I picked up a tube of Strongid Paste (Pyrantel Pamoate). It's for equines, but the feed store guy recommended it for our dogs. He said we could use it on our goats as well. (Said would not be best for felines).

What do you think? Since it's for equines, the minimum dosage says 900mg for 300 lbs. Our doe is a bit of over 100lbs I'm guessing....so....300mgs? Would ivermectin be better? Alternate?

Thanks

[Alice In TX/MO]

1. Never, ever alternate dewormers. It helps to create worms that are resistant to them.

2. The herbal dewormers can help, but most likely not replace chemical dewormer use, especially in the south. Fecal test for certainty.

[steff bugielski]

I have not used the one fronm Hoeggers but have used Molly's with great success for years now. I have not had a heavy worm load for about three years and have not touched the chemical in that time.
I love the way the goats look act and milk.

[Natural Beauty Farm]

Herbal wormers are great maintenance wormers, but everyone still needs to do monthly fecal checks to make sure they are not out of control.

Ivomec and cydectin are the basic chemical wormers and the reasons why they don't work is that they are given at too low a dose and not repeated after 10 days like they need to be. A goats metabolism is so fast most stuff is out of their body after 24 hrs, unlike other animals where it takes 36-48 hrs. They are prey animals and do not have the time to process things in their body like a predator.

.....Strongid is not one of the more effective wormers, it is dosed higher than the horse dose. I'd stick with one of the above two dewormers

[steff bugielski]

I will do a fecal if one of them has slightly pale eyelids.
I have not yet had a need to since I started though.
I give an extra dose or two and everyone looks great.

Worms must be present to infect the goat. if you constantly keep them at bay, with herb they never get a strong hold on the property.
I feel with the chemical wormers the animal gets a worm load then we treat, with the herbs we treat on a weekly basis and they never get any worms. Also virtually no milk with holding time and no danger if you give an extra dose.

I wish everyone would at least try it, follow the directions to a tee and see if it works for you.
Less chemicals has to be a good thing.