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02/20/11, 03:29 PM
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HELP NOW. She's dying - how do we do a C section by ourselves
The vet can't make it in time. How do we do it by ourselves?
HELP.
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02/20/11, 03:36 PM
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Prayers for you. I have no experience! Thinking of you!!!
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02/20/11, 03:37 PM
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I wish Emily- Ozark Jewels was on right now. She has done it before, I never have. What I read was she shot the doe in the head, and cut the kids out, all in 5 mins or less.
As far as your homemade colostrum receipe, not a good idea. Either find a goat person who can sell you some. I wonder if you can use cow's colstrum? Not sure if the cow is a good idea or not, but you need antibodies, and all the benefical things that come with it, not high caloric stuff. One chambered newborn stomachs should only get milk.
Sorry about your doe 
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02/20/11, 03:38 PM
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There was a thread about someone doing this... do a search with keyword c-section here on the goat forum and set it to search back about 3 months. they shot the doe and then immidiately cut into her in a certain spot, but if she's in a coma, you could do it and shoot her after....soryy i'm no more help, but be strong and do what you have to do!
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02/20/11, 03:41 PM
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If a doe dies during kiding???
This is a thread in which Emily shared her experience. I would see if you can find a phone number on Emily's site to call her. Or possibly Vicki. Someone with experience to talk you through it.
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02/20/11, 03:41 PM
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Kill and cut if you have no other choice....anyway you can.
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02/20/11, 03:48 PM
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here is what was in the thread... soryy, no better instructions, but you cut high into their side behind the last edge of the rib cage, I think... "I pulled her outside(she was on carpet inside), shot her and sliced the kids out. If I have to do this I do not wait for the doe to bled out. I shoot, I slice and the kids are out within five seconds. Mulberrys heart was still pumping. "
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No experience with doing it, only what I have read. By now I hope the deed is done and you at least have live babies to cuddle to cut the pain of losing your doe. I am so sorry you are going through this.
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02/20/11, 03:58 PM
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Have you ever butchered a deer?
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02/20/11, 04:00 PM
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Listen to what Suzie said, shoot her and open her up...You can do it, cut carefully and quickly...Good luck.
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02/20/11, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
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As far as your homemade colostrum receipe, not a good idea. Either find a goat person who can sell you some. I wonder if you can use cow's colstrum?
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Yes you can use cow colostrum. You should save it and freeze it every birth.
Can't you reach in and pull the kid? If not, you will have to kill mom and recover the kids.
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02/20/11, 04:12 PM
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In a pinch you can get packedged goat colostrum. It's not the best, but it's better than nothing. Sorry about your doe.
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02/20/11, 04:15 PM
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Hope you managed to save the kids. I am so sorry u r having to go through this.
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02/20/11, 04:31 PM
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I am very sorry.
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02/20/11, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
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I wonder if you can use cow's colstrum? (
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Our Prevention kids show that one can use cow's colostrum. Our Prevention kids are raised on cow's colostrum and cow's milk. They never touch goat's colostrum/milk.
Of course, the vast majority of the colostrum is from dairy cows raised on our property, so that helps.
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Thank you all for your encouragement and suggestions/help. My family and I just experienced the worst nightmare of our lives. We lost Tenacity and her 3 beautiful kids ~ 2 bucks and 1 doe. To have to watch your beloved doe die (it happened SO fast we couldn't even get a gun out...) and rip her open and cut her up was absolutely horrid. The doe that we helped birth, bottle feed and lovingly care for for two years. My twin is a hero - I just sat their balling, praying and doing what I could. We rushed the triplets inside and spent over an hour trying to bring them around, but I wouldn't be surprised if they came out dead...we did feel them moving this morning though, so who knows when it actually happened.
Please continue praying for us. This is the time that we just want to give up - we all feel hopeless over here.
Moral of the story: Keep Ketosis Sticks on hand at all times. Watch them like a hawk and look into every stinkin' symptom. Call the vet RIGHT AWAY and if things look iffy, do a C-Section RIGHT AWAY. They're not that pricey.
And sometimes - even if you do all of the above - it's just not meant to be.
Thanks everybody.
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02/20/11, 05:20 PM
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Awww I am so sorry, I was praying for a better outcome.
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02/20/11, 05:20 PM
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So sorry Barngirl! I can't begin to imagine what you've been through. (((hugs)))
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Wow. That is horrible I am so sorry.... I am really upset by this...I wish you didn't have to go through this...you are in my prayers
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I am so sorry (((hugs)))
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