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02/08/11, 03:40 PM
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Doe dropped 2 does
Her teats are tight and swollen. The babies donmt seem interested in drink. I made them drink a few squirts, and they didnt seem interested.
Should I milk her out and buy something to feed them with? Is the above normal. Ive milked goats, but never had any babies in the past. Ive lost a doz litters of rabbit babies. Id hate to lose the goats too. Magine I will tho. Another storms comeing in tonight.
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02/08/11, 03:58 PM
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Please milk out the mama's milk - it's mostly colostrum now, and the babies NEED this. Can you possibly bring them in the house for warmth? I wouldn't buy any sort of milk replacer at all. Either mama's milk, or if you don't want to milk her, Vitamin D WHOLE MILK from the grocery store. Good luck. Please let us know how it goes.
Have you got any BO-SE on hand? Failing that, any softgel Vitamin E capsules? You could poke a hole in the cap, and squirt a Vit E capsule into each baby's mouth. May help them regain interest.
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02/08/11, 04:02 PM
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If the babies are cold, they will not nurse. I'd take the babies inside where it is warm, milk out mom and give the babies a bottle to make sure they eat. They can stay in the house tonight on a bottle and go back to mom tomorrow or you can bottle raise them.
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02/08/11, 04:18 PM
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If the teats are swollen with milk then the kids can not nurse properly. She needs to be milked out til soft and kids put on teats or the kids need to be bottle fed.
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02/08/11, 04:33 PM
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Bring in momma and kids. Get kids warm. Milk out momma so her teats aren't so big. Get kids nursing on momma so you don't have to bottle feed.
Put them back outside next week when the weather is better.
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02/08/11, 04:49 PM
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When was these kids born? If you milk mom out please do not waste the first milk by milking it out on to the ground, save ever drop of it because the babies need the first milk which is called colostrum or you might need it in the future for other babies. I would do everything possible to get those kids on the teat. Is this a first time mom?
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02/08/11, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
Bring in momma and kids. Get kids warm. Milk out momma so her teats aren't so big. Get kids nursing on momma so you don't have to bottle feed.
Put them back outside next week when the weather is better.
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I agree with Alice, or even if you can put them in the garage so you can keep an eye on them. Milk momma out, save the colostrum & keep babies with momma. If you take them from her even for overnight she may not take them back tomarrow, each doe is different.
I would squirt the vitamin E liquid from the capsule into each of their mouths too, that will help with their sucking reflex.
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02/08/11, 08:09 PM
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Ive got a bottle of VE, But the pills are hard. When I went to leave to go to the doctor I looked in on them, and they were doing fine. ON ONE TEAT. Ill milk out the other tomorrow if the snow aint too deep. I know itall kill her, so ill have to snub her up. I found a old brand new goat nipple for a pop bottle, so I got the fixins. The barn there in is 90ft wide faceing south, and there about in the middle. Its really a shed and its 10ft wide. There in a part where I keep a few bales of hay. I took 2 boxes, and 2 bgales of hay and made a barrier to the south to keep them, from going out into the snow. Had a bit of trouble getting brownie to go in it, but she finally did. Wish I could keep Buckey away from her, butr I guess if all 3, 2 does and bucky are close together, theyll provide a warm barrier for the babies. I thought about bringing them in tonight, But how would that be when I have to take them out to feed? Ill go out at 10 and look in on them. I got to be up by 4 to go to Tulsa to donate plasma to be the first on in, and the first one out. The sooner I get in and out, the less snow ill buck. BUT, theyre doing fine so it seems.
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02/08/11, 08:21 PM
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FBB you can always take those pills, put them into a large syringe without the needle, put your finger over the end & add hot water. Squirt it into the back side of her mouth. But take your finger off the end first.
Sounds like you have a decent set up for keeping drafts out!
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02/08/11, 10:35 PM
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I dont have a m syringe on the place.
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02/08/11, 11:15 PM
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Next time you're at the feed store you kin pick up a few. A turkey baster would work but a little, alot messier.
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02/08/11, 11:57 PM
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I agree milk the doe and bring the kids in the house. I tube feed slow kids, It does wonders. Straddle the kid, with its head slightly up slowly guide the tube down past the larynx and into the stomach. Attach a 60 cc syringe with a catheter end to the tube slow dispense the colostrum. 20 cc. It warms the inside of the kid. Repeat again in 3 hours. When the kid is stronger, it wil have a sucking reflex and be ready for the bottle.
Google lamb saver feeding tube
syringe with feeding tube for orphans or weak lambs. Prevents fluid from entering the airways, which often happens with bottle fed lambs that are unable to swallow.
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