Well....here's an update....NO BABIES YET!
Cocoa's ligaments AREN'T GONE as suspected, or they came back, but she is still carrying lower as of last friday, some more white stuff coming out the back end, but no udder developement that I can tell.
MUFFIN, poor Muffin, she is a pygmy/nig and she is so huge, she has her legs so far apart when she walks, her udder is about to touch the ground, and some discharge here and there. She is obviously uncomfortable. She has always had loser ligs than everyone else, but today I can find nothing. SO now I know what I am feeling for finally, but I AM not getting my hopes up, I have been being teased by these animals for 3 weeks now!!!

If Muffin was bred the day I found Tito in the pen with her then today is day 154, she had signs of heat so that is why I figured he got her that day, and I never saw signs of heat again.
And I guess it is possible that all of them were in heat and they are all 154 days today!
Zoe started having signs of losing her plug, 3 weeks ago tomorrow, so I will never get excited about that ever again, it means nothing...lol
SO I will still go to the barn about every hour to an hour and a half and ck on them, even though I am working with the baby monitor where I can see them.
They arent talking to thier babies, they arent acting odd (well Zoe did hump cocoa today-that was weird) they arent standing off by themselves, they arent staring into space. They are eating hay, standing in the sun when it pops out( not much) but it is soooo cold out there!
So I guess the good news is when I had to be gone ALL day yesterday, they waited for me,
So here is a picture today of Muffin, she doesnt look so big in the picture, but she is so short that she is about as big wide as she is tall, and if you see behind all her hair, her udder is almost to the floor.
And just for fun, here is a pic of my LGD's waiting on the babies also, we had snow drifts so high last week, they were as high as this hay bale sitting here so they have climbed up it and are laying on it.
The all white one is NEO and he is almost 8 months old, (for those of you who might remember the baby pics in aug-he sure has grown)