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02/06/11, 06:41 PM
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coccidia prevention
Do you use preventative for coccidia only on bottle fed babies or all babies?
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02/06/11, 07:58 PM
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I dam raise our babies & I do coccidiosis prevention here too.
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02/06/11, 08:21 PM
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We do it on all of them.
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02/06/11, 10:26 PM
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All kids. . .
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02/07/11, 12:42 AM
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Yes, Coccidiosis and worm prevention for sure since I dam raise.
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02/07/11, 06:01 AM
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02/07/11, 08:33 AM
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steff, you use the molly herbals for cocci prevention?
I was just going to ask when I start giving prevention, last year we got babies at 2 weeks old and they got it, so wanted to know does everyone treat all their does all year long, or just in spring?
I notice on the bag of Noble goat it says feed for 28 days. SOme of this stuff really gets confusing to keep it all straight
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02/07/11, 08:53 AM
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All kids. Cocci is such a problem here in this humidity that you have to be very scheduled for the prevention. It is amazing the difference in their growth when it is prevented.
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02/07/11, 09:56 AM
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I do not use coccidia prevention on my kids. I treat only if symptomatic. Why? I want them to develop a natural resistance to coccidia. I also do not keep kids in a small area where they can be constantly reinfected with a heavy load of coccidia. I feel like a constant light load is better for their long-term health even if it slows growth a little. I have seen cases where adult animals have succumbed to coccidiosis because they were exposed to a strain that was resistant to the coccidiastat in their diet.
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02/07/11, 10:03 AM
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When using the Corid powder, do you mix as directed for cattle?
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02/07/11, 11:51 AM
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We use the Corid liquid which kills off the blood sucking stage while still allowing them to build resistance. The dose is 6.25cc undiluted per 25 lbs for 5 days every 21 days until 5 or six months.
weight dose
5 1.25
7 1.75
10 2.50
12 3.00
15 3.75
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02/07/11, 12:19 PM
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We dose all our kids, with the dam-raised being a pain in the patoot to catch. It was/is my understanding that the prevention protocol HELPS them until they are big enough to have a natural immunity to it. Otherwise, even the subclinical infections can cause damage to the intestinal tract and they'll be behind nutritionally for the rest of their lives...am I mistaken? We use 12 1/2% dimethox
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02/07/11, 01:40 PM
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I start all kids on Molly's at 3 weeks of age as per her instructions
scroll to bottom under general directions
http://fiascofarm.com/herbs/wormer.htm
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02/07/11, 03:53 PM
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The thing with the powder is that its a higher concentration, think its a 20%. Which seems like the dosage would be different than the liquid.
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02/08/11, 02:43 AM
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I use Corid since it's supposed to kill the damaging stage of coccidiosis but not the younger benign stage, so builds resistance that way. I use the liquid Corid and it is used full strength 6.25cc per 25 lbs. Unless fecals are done I wouldn't trust anything but chemical. Worms don't lay eggs much if at all in the winter so a fecal could be clean making one think herbs are working.
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02/08/11, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallabred
All kids. Cocci is such a problem here in this humidity that you have to be very scheduled for the prevention. It is amazing the difference in their growth when it is prevented.
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Cathy,
What should I use here? Dimethox or Corid or something else??
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02/08/11, 08:47 AM
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Cathy
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I have used Corid. It gags them pretty bad. I thought about trying the Dimethox to have less gagging but I am still working on my gallon jug of Corid.
I lost one of my first does to cocci damage, Goldie(small size and after giving birth could not process enough food for calcium intake- her 2 doelings grew up to be twice her size).
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02/08/11, 09:43 AM
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We don't use a coccidiosis prevention program for kids or adults and we just don't have a problem with it. Our vet told us years ago that he'd seen enough end stage liver failure in goats from breeders giving sulfa drugs to last him a life time.
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02/08/11, 06:23 PM
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Cathy
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Southern Idaho is a whole different world from the world of humidity.
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02/08/11, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallabred
Southern Idaho is a whole different world from the world of humidity.
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I desparately need to work in the goat pens, and get to know my babies, IF IT WILL EVER DRY UP HERE!
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