Doe looks bad after kidding

[chrisntiff]

We had a 3 year old second freshener freshen Friday night, two little bucks. She seemed good and got her kids cleaned up well and seemed to pass the afterbirth. We got her milked and she seemed to do fine giving a good amount of colostum. The next morning we went out to check on all the goats and she had passed what looked to be another kid(stillborn and extremely small, not even completely formed). We got her all cleaned up and went about milking. She didn't hardly give any milk and was not acting herself. She began to squat to pee and after she peed she started pushing a bit and maybe a couple of tablespoons of red blood came out. She won't eat and just kind of stands around but occasionally walks around and does her squatting deal. She is a bit overweight but she has been a little round her whole life. She is fed a good quality alfalfa hay free choice as well as a little less than 1 pound of 16% percent dairy ration. We provide a decent quality goat mineral that we get at our local feed store. There have been no changes in her diet, other than slowly adding grain as she got closer to kidding. We wont be able to get a hold of our vet until at least tomorrow. Is she retaining some afterbirth? Uterine infection? We did give he 3cc's of biomycin in case of infection. Any suggestions?

[Backfourty,MI.]

Are the babies nursing off her? That will also help her to pass any afterbirth.
I really don't know what to tell you to do, wish I could be of help but I'm sure someone with experience will jump in here soon. I have never had a doe retain placenta, etc. after delivery.
I would make sure & worm her too. I always worm mine the day of kidding & again 10 days later. Also electrolyte water would help her as well.

[chrisntiff]

We pulled the kids and started milking her. She did do a very good job of drying off the kids and getting them cleaned up. Her worm load seemed fine during our last check, but it will be a good idea to check again. Thanks

[chamoisee]

My advice is to call the vet as soon as you can. There is a possibility of there being yet another kid inside of her, or a retained placenta, or of having sustained injuries if she had assistance during the birth. I have only had one doe with a retained placenta, and she just about died (actually she was my ex's doe by that time) before I took her to a vet. She was full of rotten crap and was lucky to live through it.

[Creamers]

We had something like this last year - could be a uterine tear, retained placenta, another kid. .

[goatkid]

I would get her to the vet ASAP. It could be a retained kid or placenta, a torn uterus or milk fever. Any time a doe refuses to eat and her milk production drops, I give a 30cc shot of Norcalciphos. If things don't turn around in a couple hours, I'm on the phone with my vet.

[prairiedog]

I would give her CMPK right away not eating and reduced milk is a sign of milk fever. It would also help with needed contractions to help expel the placenta. If she is not drinking give her subQ fluids

[fishhead]

Have you taken her temp?

[Minelson]

Update?? Hope all is ok

[chrisntiff]

Sadly this doe passed this morning before we could get a hold of our vet. These things always seem to happen at the worst times. We are almost positive she must have retained another kid or possibly her placenta. Is there any way to prevent this with future Does? We are very upset as we are only 3 years or so into keeping goats and this is the first major trouble we have had. Thanks to everyone who tried to help.

[Alice In TX/MO]

Did you do a necropsy to see what had happened?

[farmerjohn]

That is so sad to hear. It is always hard to lose an animal and always hard to say something to make one feel better over it. Sometimes these things happen and there can be times when nothing you do will solve the problem or answer the questions you may have about a loss. But every experience is a learning experience. You will one day no doubt have another special someone get introduced into your life and farm and you will just know it was sent to you for a reason. Hugs to you and yours.

[julieq]

So sorry for your loss. Sometimes we never know why these things happen. Consider yourself hugged.

[Cheribelle]

((((HUGS))))
It will be tough, but you need to do an "autopsy" to find out all that you can.

[Minelson]

I'm so sorry

[andiplus8]

Oh no! I'm so sorry.