I Am SO MAD!

ahahahni1 · #1 02/06/11, 10:47 AM

So you know we just had triplets. I was especially proud of the largest doeling of the trips cause she looks like her dad. Well this morning we found her dead. Her mom laid on her!!!! I feel physically ill I am so upset by this. If you read my blog I am referring to Daisy.

Backfourty,MI. · #2 02/06/11, 10:59 AM

I am so sorry for your loss. I'm sure the momma didn't mean to do it.

julieq · #3 02/06/11, 11:05 AM

So very sorry for your loss. Consider yourself hugged.

Minelson · #4 02/06/11, 11:13 AM

How heartbreaking! I am so sorry

ne prairiemama · #5 02/06/11, 12:49 PM

I'm sorry

Oat Bucket Farm · #6 02/06/11, 12:53 PM

I am so sorry

The Tin Mom · #7 02/06/11, 03:53 PM

How upsetting! Hugs!

So sorry for your loss!

Tallabred · #8 02/06/11, 04:58 PM

I always worry about that. I really like having igloo's for the newborns to sleep in - just for that reason.

I am so sorry for you - it always seems to be the favorite of the group

Goat Servant · #9 02/06/11, 05:19 PM

Aw gee thats awful. We had that happen one time during birth before I got there. Hey Mama Doe wheres #3? Why, he got mashed into a cabrito pancake.

nehimama · #10 02/06/11, 05:29 PM

It's always the best ones, isn't it? I'm so sorry for the loss.

donewithcity · #11 02/06/11, 05:38 PM

Tallabrd thank you. While most give their condolences, I look to this board for solid information on how to raise goats as a newbie. Does any one else have information on how to prevent this?

CarolT · #12 02/06/11, 05:47 PM

So sorry to hear this. Hugs being sent. Just a thought, we used to think our mom dog had laid on and smothered a puppy when we found one under her but the old country vet said if it's alive, it usually wiggles and mom will shift over, but if it's already died, like some babies do for no obvious reason, mom won't realize it's even there... Maybe she didn't really smother it, maybe it just happened?

ahahahni1 · #13 02/06/11, 06:32 PM

how do I prevent this next time

Goat Servant · #14 02/06/11, 06:42 PM

The best prevention is to be there while kidding if you can. A box on it's side for the little ones to go into; they figure out a safe zone real quick.
Some does just arent very smart. Just awhile ago she was standing on the tip of a babie's tail just looking dumb.

CarolT · #15 02/06/11, 06:47 PM

Forgot to add that our dog didn't have a wall to smash the puppies against. Put a bar around like a whelping box has to keep her from being able to trap them may work, not sure with a goat.

Pony · #16 02/06/11, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ahahahni1

how do I prevent this next time

Make sure there's a place the kids can go to get out of the way. A plastic 35 gallon barrel, a dogloo, even an old milk stand (the favorite here) are great places for the kids to get out of traffic. The kids will usually find the place you set up, but it doesn't hurt to show them their Secret Club House.

Pony · #17 02/06/11, 06:59 PM

Oh, and I am sorry about your new doeling. That stinks.

secretcreek · #18 02/06/11, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by donewithcity

Tallabrd thank you. While most give their condolences, I look to this board for solid information on how to raise goats as a newbie. Does any one else have information on how to prevent this?

Heh...once I gave a 6 week old kitten to a young man, and he accidently rolled over on it and squashed it in his sleep...but I digress.

Like people; some goats are more um...alert than others. Then there was a doe we had that shot her second doeling out so fast, the doeling squirted thru the cattle panel stall gate- out into the barnyard... and would have died if we hadn't been there to put her back into the birthing stall next to her momma. We also had one huge lamancha doe that would panic just as she was expelling the kid and would thrash if you didn't hold her...I always feared she'd fall backwards onto the half born kid bending it all wrong, and killing it. A cattle farmer neighbor send an angus cow to the freezer because she kept giving birth on the steep creek bank and the newborns would roll down into the icy water. GGrrrrrr.

I try to remember that the doe has just given : she's tired, and besides her sore bottom, swelling udder, and hormone rush, her ligs and joints are weak making moving a bit tough for the first couple of days.

Some folks use boxes/igloo's that allow kids to maintain heat.

-scrt crk

ahahahni1 · #19 02/06/11, 07:38 PM

but she did it the day after. I will definately try the box trick. Nala always has twins or triplets so she is a pro. I just think she was preoccupied or something. I am thinking next time she has triplets I might just bottle feed one so she doesn't get overwhelmed. What do you think

momagoat61 · #20 02/06/11, 08:05 PM

so sorry about your doeling. What I have done in the past when I would have babies being born I section off a end of the barn with a section of cattle panel. In my barn I cut a 8 foot section of cattle panel and sectioned off a place where the babies then could crawl under the panel over to the area where their moma's could not get to them but they could see each other and I have in the past secured a heat lamp in the sectioned off area and the babies learn really quick to just go under the cattle panel into the baby nusery where the heat lamp was. I placed maybe 3 house foudation bricks on the barn floor to support the panel up off the floor and set the cattle panel on top of the bricks and the momas can not get under the cattle panel but the babies can come and go as they please. The area doesn't have to be very big but secure the panel all the way across the sectioned off area and the babies well have their very own sleeping nursery. I had 10 babies born in 3 days back in 1995 and thats when I came up with this idea and every time when I went out and checked on the babies at night they were always in their very own nursery. Again so sorry, Hugs.