Help me get some weight on my new goat

mamato3 · #1 01/30/11, 08:36 PM

Sorry ive got more questions. So i went and got the pregnant pygmy. She really reminds me if a Nigerian. She was someones pet and is a sweetheart im in love with her. I gave her some cheerios and shes already following me everywhere. Tried to follow my DH in the house. Anyway she is skinny i found this site that scores there body condition and i would score her at thin to poor. So tomorrow im going to buy her some wormier. If i read right i can use the quest horse worm paste right. Can i combine that with the ivemaic pour on?? She is scratching alot and i want to be sure she does not have mites or lice. Alright know how do i feed her to get her weight on? Ive got goat feed will be buying alfalfa pellets tomorrow. Anything else i could buy to add to her diet? Thought about getting sunflower seeds for a treat.
O her and oreo are not best of buddies yet she was chasing her this evening so ive got them separated tonight but they can see and smell each other. Hopefully this will change in a couple of days.

Oat Bucket Farm · #2 01/30/11, 08:53 PM

BOSS (Black Oil Sunflower Seeds) will add fat to her diet which will help her skin. I would make it part of her feed, not a just a treat. A good loose mineral will help her too. Beet pulp will add calories and some calcium to her diet as well.

prairiedog · #3 01/31/11, 07:50 AM

When we got our doe that was so skinny we wormed her real good fed a ration of oats,BOSS and calf mana. We also copper bolused and mad sure she had a good mineral. Of course all the good hay and alfalfa pellets she wanted.

Alice In TX/MO · #4 01/31/11, 07:56 AM

I'm going to put this in LARGE letters .....

Make any changes in her feed SLOWLY, or she will get quite ill and possibly die.

Cannon_Farms · #5 01/31/11, 08:15 AM

thank you Alice. i personally love Empower by nutina for fatting stuff up

julieq · #6 01/31/11, 09:03 AM

Great suggestions here. Make sure you're feeding high quality hay as your base feed. We use Supergain horse supplement in our morning grain rations (for both the goats and the horses). Love the stuff!

mamato3 · #7 01/31/11, 09:26 AM

Im only feeding her a little a day. When i feed her i use my rabbit cup when full it holds 8 ounces of feed. I gave her 4 cups of feed along with free choice prairie hay and minerals. This am i gave her 2 cups of feed. Im thinking i will give her 2 to 3 cups of boss and alfalfa pellets when i get it. Im trying to start small and build her up. Im just unsure how much to feed her. Oreo is only getting a cup of food which she refuses to eat it.

Natural Beauty Farm · #8 01/31/11, 10:04 AM

Quest has to be pushed all out and then sucked back into the tube after mixing really well.

Ivomec pour on is NOT the same as injectable ivomec which is given orally to goats.

A really good senior horse feed that has hay in the ingredients will save an animal that is too thin during the winter. Work her up until she can eat it as a large portion of her daily ration. Buy the best hay you can and offer alfalfa free choice.

I'm sure she will turn around for you.

mamato3 · #9 02/02/11, 08:27 AM

Just updating the post. My friend came over Monday helped me trim up her feet. They were bad on the back feet. Looked her over and thinks shes 5 yrs old at less due to her teeth and she has a small parasite load but not bad. And due to her age and the fact she is pregnant she thinks her weight is ok maybe a bit then but not bad. She already looks much better since i got her i can still fill her backbone. I wormed her last night with safeguard for horses. It must have been no more then a teaspoon i shot in her mouth. Tomorrow im going to pour some ivemac on her i dont mind being her scratching post but i hate to think she has lice or mites and that's why she needs me to scratch her.

Cannon_Farms · #10 02/02/11, 09:03 AM

you way underdoesed her with safeguard which is pretty ineffective for most places, and if she has lice use a powder this time a year, and I would be more worried about the side effects to the unborn than I would the lice. I really believe I have read several times over never to use Ivomac as a pour on in goats. I dont use that product so I may not recall properly.
Pm or email Ozark Jewels and see what is working for your area the best as shes near you somewhat and dose testing and such.

Deflea sold in pet stores is a safe no toxic product that really works, it does all the external parasites but only works while its wet. Diatomacious (sp?) earth is another alternative to chemicals.

mamato3 · #11 02/02/11, 11:24 AM

I guessed her weight was 50 pounds so i gave her the amount for a 6o pound goat. But i could see some of what went onto her tongue. It looked like a teaspoon amount. I can dose her for 100 pound and dose her again in a couple of days. Will that hurt her? I know the rule is never under dose always over dose a little but how much is to much? Its kindof hard to see where to set the amount is as it goes from 0 to 250 so im guessing on the plunger part.
I would use Diatomacious but my feed store does not sell it anymore. Will look for the other stuff

goatkid · #12 02/02/11, 12:12 PM

I've used injectable Ivomec orally (not the plus) on pregnant goats with no ill effects to the kids. I've also read that it's safe to use Quest on pregnant does. I would not use a combination on a pregnant doe. I've been told that Sageguard is ineffective on goats, so I don't use it. For lice, I dust my goats with livestock dust containing permethrin. This has not harmed unborn kids. I think you can order DE from livestock catalogues and healthfood wholesalers. I got mine from Azure.

Laverne · #13 02/02/11, 03:45 PM

With all of the itching with Meningeal Worm, I've read about lately, I hope it isn't that.
I've also used cat and kitten powder from the pet store for lice. It has the permethrin in it.