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11/23/10, 08:22 PM
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can lamanchas and dwarf nigerians live together?
My wife wants Dwarf Nigerians. I am leaning towards LaManchas. Can the two peacefully coexist in the same pasture?
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11/23/10, 08:27 PM
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I have ND and one nubian, they live together with no problems.
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11/23/10, 09:03 PM
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Yes they can, although LaManchas can have ear envy, lol. I have Nigerians, Nubians, LaManchas, Mini Nubian and Mini Mancha. The minis are the full size dairy goat bred to a Nigerian buck. Big and small they get along.
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11/23/10, 09:11 PM
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I have (currently) 1 Alpine, 1 Mini-Alpine, 2 LaManchas, 1 Mini-Mancha, and 1 LaMancha/Saanen cross living more or less peacefully in the same pasture.
Yes, the LaManchas sometimes bite ears on other goats.
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11/24/10, 08:41 AM
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Saanen, nubian, mini-saanen's, and nigerian dwarf...they all co-exist well. My herd Queen bites the ears of anyone not quick enough to do as she says...maybe I should get a munchie just to throw Sugar for a loop.
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11/24/10, 11:31 AM
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My peeve.
Too many short goats!!!
Around here it seems that people who keep all sorts of goats and let them breed are downsizing the grade goat population.
Ya buy what looks like a standard kid and it never gets past knee high!
Please be responsible. I know they're cute and easier to handle.
Little goat nuggets.
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11/24/10, 11:42 AM
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Why is breeding minis irresponsible? I sell them as minis, I tell them they will be a medium size goat and etc. My market leans more towards Nigies and minis. Lots of people do not want a huge goat who eats a lot. So they get 2 or 3 Nigies or mini goats who eat less and take up less room.
Yes they are also easier for kids to handle and use in goat shows and etc. There is a mini breed registry and etc etc. I also never mix a bunch of breeds together. I use a full size, purebred dairy doe ( Nubian or LaMancha in my case) and breed her to a purebred Nigie buck. First generation minis. I do not "mutt" them up and sell them as something they are not. So I guess I do not see why I should stop breeding them, or how I am irresponsible.
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11/24/10, 11:55 AM
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I have small and large goats sharing a pasture before with no problems.
Thai, I would love to breed 1st generation mini-manchas when we get more room. I think they may great goats for people.
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11/24/10, 12:22 PM
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I have alpines and nigerians... just make sure there are plenty of shelters so everyone can get out of the weather. My alpines like standing in the door and not letting anyone else in... except for this years kids who just walk UNDER the alpines.
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11/25/10, 06:43 AM
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If you were capable of seeing it you wouldn't be doing it!
Keep your goat (puppy) mill going.
Cause irrepairable damage to the goat gene pool.
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11/25/10, 09:33 AM
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spiritrider you are way out of line. There are fanciers of all types and judgeing but the 400 or so pure bred goats at my small time local show I do not believe any breed is going to be compromised, if anything it will make the pure breds more valuable.
No one here is housing their goats in small cages forcing them to have little after litter in sub par conditions. No goats are being killed in shelters by thousands.
You live in prime puppy mill state, do something there and keep that anti breeding crap off this forum. We raise livestock not pets, learn the difference, we raise what sells just like those do who treat dogs like livestock which is wrong, at least there are ethical options of doing something with the leftovers or culls where as dogs their is not.
When we have a goat finders like we do for dogs and cats on petfinder then maybe I can see your point, granted their are goats on petfinder from time to time but those are posted by foolish people who want them to be pets and not livestock.
If you have a problem finding a pure bred quality goat then maybe you should get off here and go visit the ADGA or AGS website and find a real breeder not like the one you bought from lazily with out doing research and obviously got screwed.
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11/25/10, 09:36 AM
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Sorry op, I have 2 Nubians, 1 Saanen , 1 boer, and 12 nigerians all living peacefully with my first nigerian doe as the herd boss
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11/25/10, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon_Farms
spiritrider you are way out of line. There are fanciers of all types and judgeing but the 400 or so pure bred goats at my small time local show I do not believe any breed is going to be compromised, if anything it will make the pure breds more valuable.
No one here is housing their goats in small cages forcing them to have little after litter in sub par conditions. No goats are being killed in shelters by thousands.
You live in prime puppy mill state, do something there and keep that anti breeding crap off this forum. We raise livestock not pets, learn the difference, we raise what sells just like those do who treat dogs like livestock which is wrong, at least there are ethical options of doing something with the leftovers or culls where as dogs their is not.
When we have a goat finders like we do for dogs and cats on petfinder then maybe I can see your point, granted their are goats on petfinder from time to time but those are posted by foolish people who want them to be pets and not livestock.
If you have a problem finding a pure bred quality goat then maybe you should get off here and go visit the ADGA or AGS website and find a real breeder not like the one you bought from lazily with out doing research and obviously got screwed.
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Yeah, that. You obviously need to do a lot more research.
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11/25/10, 09:43 AM
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I never said I bought from a slob breeder. And my background and education are in live stock breeding.
There are few puppy mills in Arkansas.
I do think I will leave here HST. I think you all are mostly backyard pet keepers. And newbs.
SO LONG
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11/25/10, 10:01 AM
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Cool! Considering most of us have show champions or goats well on their way or many homesteaders happy with the goats we breed, do you really think we care about your insults.
Try and have a happy thanksgiving you just gave me a bit of humor for mine.
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11/25/10, 10:03 AM
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the great ARK is second in the states for puppy mills, I think you have more than a few, of which we (my rescue group) has pulled hundreds of dogs from.
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11/25/10, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiritrider
Ya buy what looks like a standard kid and it never gets past knee high!
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Sounds like part of your problem is that you dont know what you are buying?? If you are going to buy from auctions that is a risk you are going to take (one of many really). If you are not buying from auctions look at the parents.. Should be fairly obvious from that.
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11/25/10, 10:16 AM
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Spiritrider I am curious: what do you have against mini's?
I am not zoned for goats, but because I want one I have given it some thought for if things ever change. Two dairy goats might give as much as 2 gallons a day, which is more milk than we could use. Two minis might be more practical for us, if things change. And the babies would be more saleable to people who just want pets.
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11/25/10, 10:59 AM
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Good bye!
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11/25/10, 12:49 PM
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Do you think s/he's really gone?
HEY!
EVERYONE!
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
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