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Old 10/28/10, 11:02 AM
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I have 3 doelings that are this years kids, but they really need more growth time, and then I have two nice doelings, also from this year, and they are huge. I had planned to breed
those two to a CH buck here locally next month, and then I have the dam of those had neuro damage during their birth, so she doesn't need bred again. . .

the moral?

My buck found some way into the pen and my son dragged him out. I didn't see it, so I don't know if it he was breeding them - don't know if any are in heat. . .
so I want to lute them.

Here are my questions:

When?
Dosage (my vet will not know - I imagine)?
When will they cycle again to breed the two doeling to the buck I'd planned?
Will the lute potentially cause problems with the neurological issues the dam had from the last birth?
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Old 11/01/10, 06:55 AM
 
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This is a suggested amount, I am not a vet and you take this advice upon the knowledge that it came from goat owners. This was to induce labor. Now, my vet said to do 1/2 cc every day for 3 days of the lute for my small nigerian

Pygmys:
2cc Lute
3cc Dexamethasone

Nigis:
2cc Lute
2cc Dexamethasone

Standard Size Goats:
2cc Lute
5cc Dexamethasone
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Old 11/02/10, 12:49 AM
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You want to wait at least 2 weeks after the breeding to lute, she needs to settle before it will work, but ideally no longer then 2 months - as the longer you wait the hard on the doe it can be. Dosage is always 2 ml/cc Lute no matter the breed/size/age. It is a hormonal drug so needs to be given IM to work. Don't get it on you, this is one of those wear gloves while handling drugs.

I had bucks jumping/breaking fences right and left last year, I had 4 does that I tried to lute and re-breed, only one worked, the other 3 didn't settle or cycle again until the next season. I would try to lute in 2 weeks, and see if they will cycle again on their own, if not you can try to lute a second time and try to breed then. But it may just be as some others have found, once bred, even if given lute to abort, the does may not cycle or settle again until next season.

Lutalyse is a hormonal drug that will dilate the cervix. I don't think it would have any neurological side affects - but I'm not a vet.
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Old 11/02/10, 09:50 AM
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11-14 days post exposure. Being a hormone, Lutalyse is of the few drugs we use in goats that must be given IM to be effective.
2ccs regardless the size, as stated above.
If you are a woman of child bearing age and there is any chance you are pregnant, you should not even consider handling this drug. It can be hard on Asthmatics as well. It takes only 5ccs to abort a 1200 pound cow. It is incredibly potent.
I would not think it would affect the doe with neurological issues but I do not know. Do you have a vet you can ask?
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