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09/15/10, 06:43 PM
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I need a fence charger recommendation!
I'm going to choke my stupid buck to death! I've never ever had a problem keeping my goats in before, but my buck is suddenly giving me a problem. I moved him to a nicer fresh pasture and my electric fence is not keeping him in. He's walking right through it! 
It's seven strands and we've tested the fence. It's definitely hot, but he shows no sign that he even feels it when he walks through it. I need a charger that will knock him on his 
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09/15/10, 07:54 PM
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we've tested the fence. It's definitely hot
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How many volts?
If it's at least 4000, a new charger won't make any difference.
Is your soil dry or sandy?
What sort of ground set up do you have on the fence?
You may have to alternate hot and ground wires to insure he gets a good shock
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09/15/10, 07:57 PM
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How many joules? Research your charger. You need six joules.
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09/15/10, 07:59 PM
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I have a Parmak that is currently running at 18,000 volts on about 1/2 acre. It's awesome!!
I agree with Bearfootfarm about alternating the wires to increase the shock factor.
I have a doe that used to slide under my hot wire. I rigged a halter with a strip of electric ribbon (like many use for horses) around the nose piece. I then attached a circle of the fence wire to that. Any time she tried to sneak under the fence, the loop of wire would touch the fence and she'd get her nose bit. It worked very well!!
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09/15/10, 09:41 PM
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http://www.tractorsupply.com/electri...fencer-3604552
I have that above - it will shock their little brains out on 15 acres
The horses, cow and goats - AND DOGS - stay behind it.
You need a 50 mile charger on whatever fence you have for the goats. A 5 mile or 10 mile will not do it.
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09/16/10, 05:35 AM
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I have a Parmak 50 mile. It really does the trick.
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09/16/10, 07:12 AM
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09/16/10, 05:37 PM
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I could never keep my goats in electric fencing well. If they couldn't get under it, they'd make a beautiful running leap like some kind of grand prix horse... The only way I found of keeping them in it was to shoot them with the hose. A soaking wet goat trying to sneak through an electric fence doesn't work so well.  The only problem was... they figured out it only worked when they were wet. :\
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09/17/10, 11:34 AM
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We have that one as well. As long as too many weeds aren't touching it, it keeps all the critters where they belong.
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09/17/10, 01:00 PM
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You may need more ground rods or just run a ground wire next to the hot wires.
Fence chargers have two terminals, the hot and the ground... the ground terminal is connected to the ground rod. When the critter touches the hot, the current travels through the critter, into the earth, and back to the charger through the grounding rod - thus completing the circuit. (The current wants to get back to its 'source'). If the soil is really high resistance (sand), the current can't make it back that way, so the circuit is never completed and the critter doesn't get a shock. You may just need more ground rods... maybe one closer to the buck's pen. If the fence charger is already real close to the buck's pen, then another ground rod probably won't help. I'd just run a ground wire along with the hot... connect this wire directly to the ground terminal of the fence charge. (make sure this wire is not touching any of the hot wires, however it is ok for it to touch posts or the ground). Touching one of the hot wires and the ground wire will create one holy-he11 of a shock! That is what I did with my dumber than average draft horses... I live on sand and they were not 'respecting' the fence despite having a 50 mile charger fencing in 4 acres. When the gelding did touch one of the hot wires and ground wires at the same time, the crack of the fence followed by the massive 'holy-crap' fart could be heard in house.
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09/19/10, 08:04 AM
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We have a 10 mile charger and when we test the fence, it says it's giving 2000v. I see now that this is woefully inadequate. We'll be buying a new charger for sure. I'm going to show my husband this thread and let him make the choice between recommendations. Thanks so much!
P.S. Jay27, holy crap fart? LOL
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09/19/10, 08:57 AM
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Jay27, holy crap fart
ROFL I have probably let out one or two of those from my fence as it is putting over 5500 out. I am terrible about getting into it myself at times.
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09/19/10, 10:07 AM
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I would put in more grounding rods and get a 50 mi charger.
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09/20/10, 09:28 AM
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Jay27, holy crap fart
ROFL I have probably let out one or two of those from my fence as it is putting over 5500 out. I am terrible about getting into it myself at times. |
Oh tell me you guy's haven't heard a horse get spooked and fart really loudly?!
Getting an accurate voltage reading on a fence is difficult, you have to have a really good volt meter and use the 'hold peak' function... those stupid light bar dealies work better. If you are trying to measure the voltage with a meter, chances are you are not catching the peak. The resistance of the ground is a much bigger deal. 2200 V will bite plenty if there is a good ground.
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09/20/10, 11:43 AM
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When the gelding did touch one of the hot wires and ground wires at the same time, the crack of the fence followed by the massive 'holy-crap' fart could be heard in house.
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Oh tell me you guy's haven't heard a horse get spooked and fart really loudly?!
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Oh My GOSH!! I laughed so hard at your posts! Thank you so much for a great laugh!
We have one pasture that is fenced with electric. I really do not know the specifics of our charger, my husband is a journeyman electrician so he was my expert, but I know we sank quite a few copper rods in the ground and we are only fencing about an acre. I've been hit by it leaning over to pet a goat & not knowing my DH had turned it back on. Shocked my belly and hand and the poor goat's nose. It hit so hard the first thought I actually had was that my husband had accidentally shot me!! (we were getting ready to do some target practice as I was walking by the pasture)
Yesterday one of our young barn cats got it and she pooped her little fuzzy pants.
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09/20/10, 05:13 PM
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I run a 150 mile fencer on 4 strand of 5 acre fence. It has litterly nocked my husband on his butt. He had no clue what hit him. He came to covered in mud and poo he was dazed for a little bit. So was the steer that he was holding. LOL it was a pretty funny sight
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