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Old 09/14/10, 11:42 AM
 
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I recently picked up 40 bales of kudzu hay. My 4 does share 2 flakes a day while my buck is separated during feeding time. (For those who don't know, kudzu in high in protein and calcium, very similar to alfalfa.) I have noticed, starting the day after the first taste of kudzu, that milk production went up and the amount of cream really increased to the point that it takes much longer to strain the milk. The taste of the milk is great!

I paid $4/bale in comparison to the $15-20/bale that alfalfa sells for around here, with better results. From what the man I buy feed from tells me, the large amount of vines in the hay, which of course provides a lot of roughage, is what is increasing the cream production.

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my husband brought home some kudzu from work, the goat ran over like OMGOSH, got to it sniffed and turned away, friggin pains in the you know whats

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My goats LOVE it!!!

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my goats are on my poop list, i thought goats just might not like kudzu

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Old 09/14/10, 12:26 PM
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I brought some home before and my goats made it disappear in three seconds flat. They LOVED it! I am dying to try and grow some for my goats.

Farmmom, I can't believe you have kudzu hay there, so jealous. Do you know anything about how to bale it? I remember reading it's hard to cut and stuff because it's a vine.

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Copied from backyardnature.net

For example, when you're baling Kudzu hay, "Set your header 'low' and cut vines low. Then when you go back to bale, set the header 'high.' If a round baler is available, the kudzu twines itself and does not require baling twine."


The man I bought it from has 15 acres dedicated to growing kudzu. His mom goes out and picks the blossoms for honey, uses young leaves in quishe (sp?) and in place of spinach in any recipe.

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Here in KY kudzu is everywhere. It is distructive and the folks would probably pay you to get rid of it. If you plant it make sure you are prepared to manage it, it grows like crazy and will kill any plant or tree it grows over. It's good to know how goats do on it, I'm thinking of goats and this would be an easy food source.

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I am dying to try and grow some for my goats.
You'll most likely be sorry if you do.
It will take over everything in it's path

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my husband brought home some kudzu from work, the goat ran over like OMGOSH, got to it sniffed and turned away, friggin pains in the you know whats
Goats tend to be very hesitant about trying new foods. If you let them get used to the kudzu they would probably eat it (particularly if they didn't have a lot of other choices). Most people don't realize how picky goats can be.
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You'll most likely be sorry if you do.
It will take over everything in it's path

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There's park around here, one time I went on a picnic, and there was roughly an acre of the stuff. A week later, I went on a campout at that same place, and it'd spread another couple yards, easy.
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The seeds, which are small with a thick seed coat, can remain in the soil for several years before germinating. The vines develop from starchy tubers which can grow to depths of 10 feet and weigh 200 to 300 pounds. Kudzu has the ability to root at the leaf joints, forming thousands of plants to the acre. Kudzu also has extraordinary growth rates of up to a foot a day and 60 feet in a year.
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It will take over everything in it's path

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I need to post pics of my drive home lol. Thats what about 65 miles of my drive looks like.

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When my son graduated from Army boot camp in Georgia several years ago we were amazed and appalled at all the Kudzu.

Now, in a town not 6 miles from us, and along railroad tracks about half that distance, there is Kudzu everywhere. I am thinking my goats will become self defense when that stuff gets here. I am sure it will get here, just not sure when. It scares me. But, when it is closer I will be proactive, and make lemonade out of those lemons!
Sounds like the milk will even benefit. But I would never ever try to grow it on purpose.

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I live in Alabama... The stuff is EVERYWHERE here... it reminds me of living up in the pacific nw only there its black berries...good to know that goats will eat kudzu though...

Is there anything else you can do with kudzu?

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in places that already have Kudzu it is worth utilizeing, its a great feed for Goats, Cattle, Sheep, Rabbits, even chickens will eat the leaves, but if you dont already have it DO NOT INTRODUCE it to someplace that its not already, it has alot of uses yes but it also will take over and your neahbors wont like you much for it

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its also used in crafts, you can make baskets and all sorts of other things out of the vine if your of a mind too..

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[QUOTE=SteelRose;4642438]I live in Alabama... The stuff is EVERYWHERE here... it reminds me of living up in the pacific nw only there its black berries...good to know that goats will eat kudzu though...

Is there anything else you can do with kudzu?[/QUOTE]

Kudzu blossom jelly, fried leaves, the young leaves can be used in place of spinach in recipes and canned like spinach, the root starch can be used to thicken gravies. The vines are great for craft projects. I'm sure there is more that I don't know.

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My plan was to build cattle panel fence row, like 6-8 ft by however long and plant the kudzu inside it. This would keep the goats from killing it, they could eat it as it tries to escape.

My granpa planted it a long time ago for his goats and they ate it to the ground and then pawed roots up and ate that too and killed it.

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just dont bring it in to a state/county/location where it was not previously located, its actually illegal to transport it accrost state lines or something i think, its listed as an Invasive,

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it is illegal to propagate in most of the south. you get caught growing it on purpose and the state will hammer you for it.

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it is illegal to propagate in most of the south. you get caught growing it on purpose and the state will hammer you for it.
The man I bought it from is in North Carolina. He grows it, advertises it, has even been on tv talking about it. And, he sells it across state lines. It may depend on what you're doing with it.
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I wonder if donkeys and mules would eat it. Anyone have any experience.

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We're in CA I don't think we have Kudzu here. I would like some though for sure. Sounds good for milk production.

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And yes, it can germinate via the seed.

http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/pumo1.htm

And it is against the law in many places to grow Kudzu. Obviously, this does not affect the people who are making a living off kudzu that was already there- but those who are thinking about it may well think twice- between the law and the determintal (sp) affect on the area and other growth.
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It will take over everything in it's path

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Although kudzu is very aggressive, it can be managed. When we lived in Alabama there was a forrest behind our house and kudzu grew like crazy. It would start to creep into our yard, but as long as we kept the grass cut, it also kept the kudzu at bay. It will grow over everything though if you allow it to run wild. I always thought it would make a great horror story, "The Day the Kudzu Took Over". You can almost watch it grow!
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There's a gal down in Florida that makes her living grazing goats on kudzu. She rents the herd out, furnishes the herding dogs, guardian dogs, and electric fence. She's full time in various areas, even inside towns helping control it, and fattening her goats at the same time.

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I wonder if donkeys and mules would eat it. Anyone have any experience.
The gentleman I bought it from said he sells it to people for their horses, but doesn't recommend feeding large quantities (kind of like alfalfa)
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Hi. I live near Landrum SC and was wondering where you bought your kudzo bales from. Alphafa is $15 a bale here also! As far as nutrition, is it good for the goats and has anyone had any health problems with there goats.

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