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08/02/10, 03:12 AM
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My buckling is behaving badly!
He has learned how to wrap himself up like a pretzel and reach "himself" with his mouth. I was so embarassed yesterday when our friends came over and when we went down to see the goats, he was "going at it"!!!
Is this common?
PS Keep it clean, folks, please!!! I am really hoping for some suggestions/advice and I don't want the thread locked!
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08/02/10, 05:11 AM
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LOL Our nubian buckling ,Jasper ,has just developed this "talent" as well ! It's just so much fun trying to explain this to my 5 children ...... hahaha
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08/02/10, 06:15 AM
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I thought we would be able to avoid this if we stayed clear of the monkey cages at the zoo!!! Luckily, I haven't had to explain it to my 9 year old daughter...yet. I think I will tell her he is cleaning himself.....hmmmmm.
My 14 year old son was there to see it and boy, did he have a few choice comments to make!
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08/02/10, 06:35 AM
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It's gross, yes. But I might not tell the 9-year-old that he's "cleaning himself". Ewwww! How would that compute in a 9-year-old's brain? LOL! I usually say that he's putting on his "perfume" so the girl goats will like him a lot. I know. THAT doesn't compute, either, does it?
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08/02/10, 06:36 AM
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I'm not sure why you would want to avoid this. Living on a farm educates children early  My daughter is 9 also and she is well versed on the matings of different animals around the farm. I told her that the buck was applying his perfume so the ladies would find him attractive and want to marry him so they could breed and make babies.She finds the whole buck thing quite disgusting and was very glad to hear that people do not pee on themselves before sex.. Your buckling is not behaving badly, he is just being a teen, getting ready for his job. My advice, don't try to hide it, answer your daughter's questions honestly and only answer what she asks. and do not run your hands down the buck's legs to pick up his foot without gloves on.... nasty nasty nasty
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08/02/10, 06:36 AM
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I know my daughter would ask me why he needed perfume....there! Double Ewwwwww!
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08/02/10, 06:42 AM
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I get the whole nature concept of it, but it does lead to conversations that I am not ready for. My daughter still yells at the rooster when he gets on the hens...and thinks the drakes are trying to drown the females when they mate in the pond. Oy vey!!!
I know my buckling is just getting ready for his job, but I just wish I could tell him to go hide in his igloo when he decides to "prepare" himself!!! =)
PS Goats pee on themselves before mating??? Oh my!!! I have never seen THAT!
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08/02/10, 06:48 AM
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"PS Goats pee on themselves before mating??? Oh my!!! I have never seen THAT! "
As I understand it, they're preparing themselves for the ladies to accept them by applying their own brand of perfume. This behavior is where the "stinky buck" syndrome comes from. I'm supposing the urine is loaded with pherenomes (probably not spelled correctly, but it's the hormones that produce the smell the ladies like.) So, yes, they generally pee on themselves - beard, mouth, front legs, chest, so the odor clings. Ick, huh?
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08/02/10, 06:50 AM
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Good thing humans do not have the same mating ritual...we would have been extinct LONG ago!!!
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08/02/10, 06:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shanzone2001
Good thing humans do not have the same mating ritual...we would have been extinct LONG ago!!!
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You can say THAT again!
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08/02/10, 07:08 AM
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As said before, completely normal. And humans do this in their own way. Cologne, perfume, after shave, soap that smells nice, shampoo that comes in all those fragrances. Yup. It's all the same.
The age of your children is perfect for explaining these things. Just stick with the facts, not made up reasons.
This is the perfect time for the birds and bees conversations. Or, geese, chickens, and goats.
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08/02/10, 08:15 AM
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I agree. Perfect time to explain to children the farm facts. The topic will come up over and over. They are at that age. Being a retired teacher you might be surprised at how early kids know the basics and yes some know much more than the basics. SOO-that being said-I have also been told that you need to stand a way from the buck far enough so that he cannot pee on you. I was told the safest place-if you have to be close-is only directly behind him as things can move.
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08/02/10, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerjohn
I agree. Perfect time to explain to children the farm facts. The topic will come up over and over. They are at that age. Being a retired teacher you might be surprised at how early kids know the basics and yes some know much more than the basics. SOO-that being said-I have also been told that you need to stand a way from the buck far enough so that he cannot pee on you. I was told the safest place-if you have to be close-is only directly behind him as things can move. 
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I will be sure to watch out!!! haha
I am a teacher, too, and my 6th graders know more than I knew in high school! I am just in denial with my own daughter!!! You are right, though.
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08/02/10, 08:37 AM
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Son was telling me that his youngest kindergarten daughter-on the school bus mind you-was approached by boy also in kindergarten and was told "all" of the facts in great detail."YIKES." That same granddaughter has great difficulity with my milking the goats and refused to drink any goat milk. IF it is in cakes or cookies not so bad. I do not think I want to be the one to answer the questions during this fall's breeding season. Something my son can handle-HeHe.
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08/02/10, 08:41 AM
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I was also told and do not know if it is true-that if you get caught in a stream of spray that it is akin to a skunk. I was also told that you remove the smell from clothes and etc. the same as for a skunk or just give up and throw the clothes away. I have not experienced this yet but I am sure the time will come.
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08/02/10, 09:11 AM
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My buckling is very much in rut right now, spraying himself, slapping the girls, blubbering and attempting to mount. I think he succeeded the other day, so looking forward to Christmas or New Years babies!
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08/02/10, 09:21 AM
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Welcome to the goat world, I suppose!  Bucks are so gross.
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08/02/10, 10:14 AM
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We had company one day, and our buck was loose in the yard. He proceeded to walk up to my CLEAN laundry on the line and have his way with a large, fluffy bath towel  .
The 5 yr old boy neighbor said WHAT is he doing!!!  His mom was there (and she grew up on a dairy farm) - when she didn't give an explanation, because she was laughing so hard - I said, "Oh, he wants a girlfriend, but since he can't find one, he stole my towel"
Good enough explanation for him - And I really didn't know what else to say.
yeah, that towel was NOT used for bathing again!
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08/02/10, 10:17 AM
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Is it wrong that I am enjoying these buck stories so much? Too funny...and really gross!!!
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08/02/10, 11:02 AM
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I just counted my bucks last night.... getting ready for the rut..... 17 guys in the pens. Anyone need a smelly boy.
Actually mine are all dehorned and under 3 right now. Don't remember anyone smelling bad last year. I had one old boy here that smelled of "perfume" years back, but he was in a pen alone. Wonder if that makes a difference. Maybe my boys don't like sharing "perfume".
This year I do have a 4 week old that wants to romance everyone and everything.... he will be a handful come rut.
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