Goat straining to urinate

Frosty44 · #1 07/09/10, 07:15 AM

Hello I have an old very pampered pet goat 13 yrs old alpine/ nubian, she has never been bred been very healthy until this yr. when her coat started to look very shaggy & I noticed when she was urinating she makes a gruntting sound then she would walk a few steps & squat , grunt & urinate small amounts again. I called the vet & she ask me if she had a pot belly which she always has had but a little more so, she's been wormed on a regular schedule, but the vet said it was probably a tape worm to worm her again with Valbazen 10 cc, 3 different times one week apart, add vitamins with electrolytes (Vi-tal) to her water no grain only roughage, I might add the appetite has always been very good she is spunky however she is still straining to urinate, tomorrow will be the last dose of the Valbazen. The vet said she was straining to urinate because of dehydration. Anybody had the same problem or comment? Thanks

Alice In TX/MO · #2 07/09/10, 07:29 AM

I would assume bladder infection.

Minelson · #3 07/09/10, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

I would assume bladder infection.

me too...Was the subject of a possible bladder or UTI brought up? If not, I sure would look into that and get her on anti-biotics asap. What is her temp?

Backfourty,MI. · #4 07/10/10, 10:31 AM

I was also thinking bladder or kidney infection? Temp. would help determine if she's got some type of infection.

Bucks & wethers that have trouble urinating usually have Urinary Calculi, I have heard doe's can get it also but don't usually have the same trouble going pee becuase their opening is bigger to urinate from. It causes stones, like people would get kidney stones only these get trapped & block the hole at the end of the pizzle on a male goat so they can't urinate.

KimM · #5 07/10/10, 03:02 PM

i also agree that it could be a UTI. Can you get a urine sample to take in? That isn't usually very expensive to check.

Frosty44 · #6 07/10/10, 10:09 PM

The urine is clear, & I suggested a UTI to the vet but she said probably not, what Antibiotic do you suggest?

KimM · #7 07/10/10, 11:22 PM

*I* would insist on the urine being checked.
I don't give antibiotics unless there's a reason (fever, green snot, obvious infection) and since you can't be certain of there being an actual infection, I wouldn't give anything. At that age, it's not unreasonable to be concerned about a tumor causing pressure to make her strain. If she were mine I'd have x-rays or ultrasound done to at least rule that out.
I'm sorry, I don't know what else to suggest.

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The urine is clear, & I suggested a UTI to the vet but she said probably not, what Antibiotic do you suggest?

Frosty44 · #8 07/11/10, 01:47 PM

I appreciate all the replys, I'm in such a remote area that x-rays don't exist, the Vet I consulted is retired now after a stroke so far the goat is looking better I've done all I can & she doesn't appear in any distress she even played with the dog & gunieas yesterday, it just may be close to her time. I will attempt to get some urine & take it to the other vet surely he can check urine for infection but he has a big sign up he only treats cats & dogs.

Backfourty,MI. · #9 07/12/10, 07:04 AM

This probly won't cure anything but my goats litterally LOVE it so I know they drink more. Put Apple cider Vinegar in her water. Mine will drink the bucket dry beofre drinking any regular water.

I started it in the summer months only years ago & for the doe's becuse someone told me that's what they did & I was new to goats & didn't know anything. Now everyone gets it everyday, year around.

Surely can't hurt her & she may drink more water which may help what ever's going on too.
I put about 1/2 to 1 cup in a 2 gallon bucket. Enough to make the water a light golden color.

Frosty44 · #10 07/12/10, 08:44 PM

I bought antibiotic crumbles today as suggested, mixed it with a little feed, she ate a little bit of it, started running around crazy, bleeting kicking the side of the barn & breathing heavy I thought she was dying for sure, she is really having difficulty peeing today it's down to drops I know she is in pain, it's just breaking my heart. I live in such a remote area I have to depend on farmers to help me & when she answers the phone a vet who doesn't really know how to treat goats I don't think & who's 50 miles away from me.

Minelson · #11 07/12/10, 08:49 PM

That is a bazaar reaction! Is she grinding her teeth? I would get some injectable anti-biotic in her asap. I would think that a farmer would have it on hand

Poor girl

KimM · #12 07/12/10, 09:42 PM

My heart breaks for you, I can hear your helplessness and unfortunately I have no suggestions other than if you can't get a good vet to help you, please don't let her linger. Praying for her and you.

Minelson · #13 07/12/10, 09:53 PM

Here is a list of medications. Go to the Anti-biotic section and it lists all the different ones available and the dosage. http://fiascofarm.com/goats/medications.htm#anti

Minelson · #14 07/12/10, 09:56 PM

Also, ask your farmer friends if they have any Banamine...horse people would be most likely to have. It will help her with the pain.

Minelson · #15 07/13/10, 11:10 AM

How is she doing today?

Frosty44 · #16 07/13/10, 05:45 PM

7-13-10 Update
Well she doesn't like apple cider vinegar water & she let me know about it so I gave her just plain old fresh water & my son said she drank real good, spent about 1 hr with her this morning grooming & talking to her, her appetite was good. I got the number to a Vet that treats mostly horses & said he also can treat goats but a cousin happen to call & said that vet wasn't up to par on goats but gave me a number of another vet, did get a temp today & it was 101.1 according to my book that's a little below normal will call the vet my cousin recommended he has lots of goats he thinks it might be kidney failure or tumor due to her age, seems like she would have fever with a UTI.
Anybody know how they act with Kidney failure or a tumor blocking their bladder? She sure threw that antibotic cumbles up all over the place, she doesn't seem to be in any pain today she even climbed up on her platform.
Thanks again for your support

Minelson · #17 07/13/10, 06:34 PM

I'm glad she is not in pain, drinking and eating is a good sign. Let us know what the vet says. Hugs to you and your goat!

Cyngbaeld · #18 07/13/10, 07:12 PM

I don't know where you are, but depending on your area, manzanita, or uva ursi (bear berry), or cleavers or even a big bucket of parsley will help with kidney problems.

Backfourty,MI. · #19 07/13/10, 08:04 PM

I"m keeping my fingers crossed for the both of you Frosty. I know how frustrating & heartbreaking it is having a pet depending on you & not knowing what to do! Hopefully the vet can help determine what the problem is & what you should do.

As long as she's eating & drinking & not in pain that's a good thing. Could be cancer or a tumor but we'll hope for good news anyways.
Let us know what the vet says when you find out please.
Keeping you in my thoughts!

Frosty44 · #20 07/14/10, 09:59 AM

I am so flustrated today & sadden, Elsie won't eat now & there is no poop or pee anywhere, she is standing looking in a daze, her stomach is quite large equal on both sides not lop sided. I have called 3 vets one told me it's to late everything is shutting down & the other 2 are suppose to call me back. My gut feeling is that when I wormed her the worms have blocked her colon when they died & in turn has blocked her bladder, one friend said she might have a twisted gut . In a human a impaction can put pressure on your bladder & you can't urinate as well. I am in the Ouachita mountains of Arkansas for those of you who have asked. I guess my best bet at this time is to prepare to have someone to come & put her down for me so she won't suffer we are under heat advisory today she has shade but it will be miserable for her. Will keep you posted. Thanks everyone