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Old 07/03/10, 04:28 PM
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Underweight or Saggy?

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Okay, I have a doe that I am having a hard time telling whether she is underweight or just saggy. She is 7 years old, and has had two sets of quints (5!) and I think one set of trips and one single (she hasn't kidded here, yet). Her eyelids are pink, she was wormed this year before exposure to my buck (March), has minerals and baking soda, and has been copper bolused. I feed them BOSS, Purina goat pellets, and alfalfa pellets. They've eaten most of the grass in their pen, but I let them out almost every day to eat weeds around the pen and barn. She's still eating and acting just fine.

The front half of her looks/feels fine I think, but then she has these sunken spots under her hips. She had them when I first got her, but I'm having trouble judging whether they've gotten worse or not. She has this BIG belly, and I think it pulls down on her there, which doesn't help the sunken look. My mom says that she is probably saggy from having so many babies. Could you guys please look at these pictures and tell me what you think? I've already started to increase their feed, since they're supposed to be preggers (haven't blood tested), but do you think I should worm her again? (I used Cydectin earlier this year, but I'm planning on using Ivermec next to help prevent resistance.) I don't want her to be underweight, but I'm so afraid of doing something wrong with her supposed to be preggers.

Oh, another theory my mom has is that if she is pregnant, the babies may be dragging her stomach down even more, making it look worse?

You can click the pictures to see them bigger.

This is when we first got her:
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This is now. (Sorry this pic isn't as good, but my camera is broken - this is from a friend's camera and the only picture I have of her side recently):
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What do you think?

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Old 07/03/10, 05:47 PM
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My totally newbie, non-veterinarian opinion is that she probably has a torn stomach muscle and her tummy will always sorta sag like that.

I can't see her in person, and I'm far from an expert, but that's what it looks like to me.

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Old 07/03/10, 05:50 PM
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I have an elderly LaMancha who has a saggy abdomen from so many multiple pregnancies.
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Old 07/03/10, 11:44 PM
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Looks more like a sagging issue.
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Old 07/04/10, 11:43 AM
 
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I agree Saggy, our 6 year old Nigerian looks much the same. Infact everyone who has seen her recently asks me when she is due. However she isn't pregnant, just saggy!
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Old 07/04/10, 04:52 PM
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Thanks guys, I feel a lot less worried now. I have no other "older" does to compare her to, so I didn't know whether it was normal or not!

Will her sagging effect her ease of kidding at all, or is it just a cosmetic sort of thing?
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Old 07/04/10, 04:54 PM
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If my old girl is an example, it's just a cosmetic thing. Luckily, there are no mirrors in the goat yard. She doesn't even know she's saggy.
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Old 07/05/10, 06:52 AM
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I too have a saggy nigerian. She has also had quads at least 3 times that I am aware of and triplets a couple times. I have had her about 3 yrs and she has been that way since then and no problems kidding. She is 7 also.
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Old 07/05/10, 02:25 PM
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That's a big relief! Thanks everyone who replied. I'm really glad that it doesn't seem like something that would be a "big deal." Thank goodness for this forum.
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Alice the "no mirrors in the goat yard" cracked me up thanks.

Yeah my 6yr old sags big time. No problems kidding.
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