banamine for meat goats?

xoxoGOATSxoxo · #1 04/27/10, 09:37 AM

I need to band a 2 month old

meat buckling. I think I should give him something before I do it, poor guy. I've never used banamine before, so I dont know how to give it. I've heard it is approved for beef cattle only intravenously. Is the same true for meat goats? I dont know how to give iv injections.

April · #2 04/27/10, 09:48 AM

I've always heard to use a 10 day withdrawal time for meat and 3 days for milk, so as long as you don't plan to butcher inside of 10 days I think you're fine with IM.

**mygoat** · #3 04/27/10, 10:04 AM

I've banded at 8 weeks before. Mine were Minis, though... you sure a boer buckling will still... erm... fit? hehe.

I didn't use banamine... The boys would holler a bit and lay down alot, but none seemed to terribly worse for wear after a couple hours.

xoxoGOATSxoxo · #4 04/27/10, 10:55 AM

He'll fit... but I do worry about him being in a lot of pain, since he's so old and... large.

shiandpete.1 · #5 04/27/10, 11:21 AM

Sometimes I do the lamanchas at 8 weeks, I band them, give them their CD&T and out them back in the pen. Some flop around and act like their dying, others are more manly and act as if nothing happens.

cur huntin' kid · #6 04/27/10, 03:49 PM

I wouldn't give him anything. I am new to goats and have never banded a buckling but I have banded bull calves and we never give them anything. It is just like putting a rubber band around your finger. A little discomfort at first but goes numb quickly. I have also seen what banamine does to the meat and its not pretty. I have also never heard of it given iv, but I dont really know the way it is supposed to be given.

copperpennykids · #7 04/27/10, 04:00 PM

It would be more humane to use the blade on this kid. It is also the lowest risk procedure (tetanus and other complications). There is a TV Show (Dirty Jobs, I think) where the guy wants to band the sheep rather than cut, as per the ASPCA. He quickly realized that cutting was much better than banding. There is a YouTube where the main guy is doing a motivational talk and recaps this episode (what I saw, not the TV show). Very eye-opening.

Banamine can be used in all breeds of goats - 1cc/100lb of goat.

We do not use any pain medication for disbudding or castrating. The goats are fine.

xoxoGOATSxoxo · #8 04/27/10, 08:59 PM

The blade... yikes! I've never done it or seen it, and I'd be very nervous to try without anyone there to help. I dont know anyone who does it, either. Everyone I know uses the bander or the burdizzo.

I usually dont use pain meds for stuff like this, but I also usually dont band 8 week olds. Course, others say that its fine, so...

ozark_jewels · #9 04/30/10, 11:27 AM

Yes, I have banded 8 week olds. No, I have never had any issues. And no, I never give pain meds for banding. They act uncomfortable for about 30-60 minutes, then they are fine. They will be uncomfortable for a little while no matter what form of castration you choose.