I hate craiglist people sometimes

Shygal · #1 04/22/10, 03:56 AM

I hope she gets a good home. She probably hasn't been tested for anything. I hate when people think animals are disposeable

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great little pet. Female, eats weeds and burdock. friendly, gets along well with other animals including chickens, dogs, and horses. Just bought another horse so I dont have the room for her anymore. horses are ridable and goats aren't. $55 firm

http://glensfalls.craigslist.org/grd/1701253192.html

nehimama · #2 04/22/10, 08:50 AM

Aww, that's sad. I also hope she gets a good home where she is appreciated.

Eunice · #3 04/22/10, 08:52 AM

Sorry about your hate. I use craigslist at times for selling, or locating goats for other people. It works much better in this area than the penny saver ads. It sounds to me like the people are trying to find a good home for their goat. And so they probably don't test for whatever - neither do I. There isn't a good goat vet for hundreds of miles around me. There are times to test and other times it is just an expense with no return.

Tallabred · #4 04/22/10, 10:05 AM

She is trying to sell a pet. Probably does not even know about testing - why would she? I'm sorry but I do not see what is wrong with that ad - cute picture, looks well cared for.

Shygal - do you not sell or dispose(eat) any of your goats?

KimM · #5 04/22/10, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eunice

Sorry about your hate. I use craigslist at times for selling, or locating goats for other people. It works much better in this area than the penny saver ads. It sounds to me like the people are trying to find a good home for their goat. And so they probably don't test for whatever - neither do I. There isn't a good goat vet for hundreds of miles around me. There are times to test and other times it is just an expense with no return.

You don't need a vet to pull blood and send it to a lab. BioTracking is all of $4. to test for CAE and I think it's always worth it. It's a very good selling point as well.

deineria · #6 04/22/10, 11:45 AM

I think some of you are missing the point. . .

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Just bought another horse so I dont have the room for her anymore. horses are ridable and goats aren't.

That is the part that is clearly very sad.

Kshobbit · #7 04/22/10, 12:11 PM

Most goats sold for "pets" have a dismal life. They are alone, staked out with the water pail knocked over or absent and nothing to eat. Or they are turned loose in the yard and owners freak out when the cute little things eat their fruit trees and roses instead of the weeds or grass. Just like puppies that grow up to be dogs, then thrown away, the cute pet goat kid grows up to poo on the porch and sit on top of the car/truck. That is what is sad about this Ad and others like it.
Before I hurt someone's feelings, there are folks who love goats and have pets for company. I sold an adult doe that had a ruined udder for a pet goat but first they could prove they had a barn(it was heated), pasture, kept fresh water and hay available and they bought her for a companion for their older pet wether after his companion had died from old age.
I won't sell a goat until I know they will have shelter, pasture, hay and water. Too many folks jump in to goats because, gosh darn the kids are so adorable.
Too many sad stories to tell here but I won't sell pet goats.

Heritagefarm · #8 04/22/10, 12:13 PM

This ad is nowhere near as bad as some I see... Mostly the ad was blunt.... I dislike it when >extrondinriley< bad grammar is used, skinny sick goats, etc. The goat pictured is in good condition. In this instance, I am not jumping on the bandwagon...

Kshobbit -
You make a good point, however I think the heated barn was overkill!

deineria · #9 04/22/10, 01:40 PM

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Kshobbit -
You make a good point, however I think the heated barn was overkill

A heated barn? I can barely afford my own electric bill for my house and to have running water and lights in my barn - haa haa!

I think most pet goats do have a sad life. . .because people do get caught up
in the cute kids and such. I don't sell to mania type people - that I can tell just
thought the goat kids were so cute and thought they might like one.

RiverPines · #10 04/22/10, 02:26 PM

OMG there is nothing wrong with the person finding they like their horses better and find no use for a goat!

So they tried a goat and it wasnt for them.

They could of took it and had it for dinner but they choose to sell it, so? Either way they are just getting rid of a goat. Nothing new, nothing cruel about it.

From the pic it looks fine too.

And not everyone test, especially for just a yard goat!
Also depending on the breed and demand some areas testing is pointless because there are more goats than demand and you have to practically give a brush goat away to be rid of it!
Around here unregistered pygmies and mutts are a dime a dozen.
So even a 15 dollar cost most likely wont be re-cooped!

Heritagefarm · #11 04/22/10, 03:18 PM

Well said... That's along the lines of what I was trying to say, but couldn't find the right words.

Laverne · #12 04/22/10, 03:49 PM

Be glad that goat may get away from horses. Mine attacks goats and there are threads on here of horses killing goats. She may not have the facilities to separate the goat easily from the horse.

deineria · #13 04/22/10, 04:04 PM

It is the idea that animals are disposable. . .how anyone can't find a problem with that, I will never understand. If you're eating them, then that is what you bought or bred them for. If you buy an animal as a pet and get "rid of it" everytime you find something new, there is something wrong with you.

WindowOrMirror · #14 04/22/10, 04:13 PM

how about if I buy them for food and 'get rid of' them regularly like?

Heritagefarm · #15 04/22/10, 04:32 PM

Or even if you get a horrid, kicking 'milk goat'? That's an animal no one wants.
Horses, well, we have a cow, a sheep, and a goat in with a horse right now, lol.

deineria · #16 04/22/10, 04:33 PM

Well, I'm a vegetarian - lol - so that would be my thing, but regardless, just because you CAN eat something, it doesn't mean you should treat it as disposable. . .if you get something as a pet, you should not just trade it everytime something new sparks your fancy.

CaliannG · #17 04/22/10, 05:10 PM

I'd have to be awfully hungry to eat a "pet" anything.

However, I agree with both sides of this argument.

1. Too many people consider animals disposable, even pet animals, much less "livestock". It's sad.

2. However, as ads go, this one is not so bad. It is to be hoped that the goat might find a home that DOESN'T believe that pets are disposable.

Or perhaps I am just jaded and seen too many horrors in rescue. People attempting to re-home a single goat for what is actually a reasonable fee isn't going to get my angst up too much.

Ask me about my acquaintance in parrot rescue, who responded to a CL ad of "Someone better get this dang bird or I am putting it down!" -- for $500 of course. When my acquaintance arrived, the guy was hosing down the cage with a garden hose with the bird still inside of it. Might I also mention that the cage was a budgie cage, the bird hadn't been outside of it since he was first put in it as a baby, had ONE toy, and the cage had to be CUT off of the bird?

Yeah, re-homing a healthy looking goat due to space considerations for other livestock? Not going to get my dander up too much.

RiverPines · #18 04/22/10, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by deineria

Well, I'm a vegetarian - lol - so that would be my thing, but regardless, just because you CAN eat something, it doesn't mean you should treat it as disposable. . .if you get something as a pet, you should not just trade it everytime something new sparks your fancy.

And there is no guarantee that an animal you take in as a pet will work out either.
Not all animals and all people work out together.
Usually the adoption of the animal isnt with the intent to get rid of it but sometimes it just doesn't work out for whatever reason.
This person probably thought a goat would be a nice addition but found out differently. Cant know for sure till you try.
They tried and it wasnt for them..it happens.

I sold out all my goats because I found I enjoy my sheep better. The sheep are better on the pocket book for us. They are also easier to manage for us.
Thats not bad.
Whats bad is keeping an animal you dont want because that can turn into resentment, lack of care, and so on.
I wont be cruel to any animal but I wont force it on myself or my family if it doesnt work out. Better to place it than to force yourself to keep it when your hearts not in it.

RiverPines · #19 04/22/10, 06:02 PM

Another incident.
We had gotten a freshly weaned mini horse for livestock guardian for our sheep and goats.
Well it was great. He was a sweet little horse and grew into a beautiful adult. We had him gelded too.
Well, he decided one day to bite the ear totally off one of the pygmy goats. After that he found it to be a form of entertainment and started to bite every ones ears regularly.
He also found it was fun to chase the goats and sheep till they were stressed and exhausted. Before he killed any of them I sold him!
I could of kept him but he would have been isolated alone or I would have had to get another for company. The last thing I wanted were 2 useless, for me, hay burning mini's!
He was sold to a great lady that has minis and trains them for cart pulling!
So he ended up with a great life because he didnt work out for us!!!!
We learned minis are not something we want to try ever again and our mini now has a life full of purpose and love!

This goat may find a great home too now that its owner is giving it that chance!

Now out right street dumping an animal you dont want or abusing it...that is wrong!!!!!

deineria · #20 04/22/10, 06:23 PM

I have seen MANY ads much worse than this on CL, for sure. As far as some of them go, this one isn't bad. . .it is just, I see so many of these that basicaly saw, " I got bored of this pet, so I want rid of him," and it comes down to usually, people buying something on a whim and nothing thinking it through.
I have had to re-home many pets and livestock based on circumstances beyond my control. . .loss of income, unexpected moves, dogs attacking livestock, an animal not being what it was represented to be, etc. . . but just the idea of getting a living create on a whim and a few months later, being bored of it and wanting rid of it and USUALLY getting something you will to the same with a few months later to replace it with is so sad. . .