Panacure for Cocci? And other questions . . .

[LomahAcres]

I sold 2 doe kids - born March 9th, about 3 weeks ago. Today, the buyers contacted me saying one had diarrhea. There were no diet changes, they are on cow milk 2% (I recommended switching to whole milk). I suspected Cocci and sent them to the vet for Albon treatment. Vet said they hadn't used Albon for cocci in a long time, and gave them panacure and said that would work? I'd never herd of panacure for cocci, I thought it was just for tapes? Anyway, we are waiting 3 days to see if the panacure works and then switching to Albon if it doesn't. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard of using panacur for cocci, and if it works?

The vet also said it was uncommon for kids to eat dirt, but mine are always nibbling at it, along with everything else. Maybe for an adult I might think something is missing from their diet, but for young kids on milk would this be the case? Or is it normal?

Also, what is the correct category cocci falls under? I didn't think it was a true parasite - but then not a true bacteria either, is there an exact name for what it is? I understand that corid blocks the absorption of B Vit. from the cocci only to prevent the larval from becoming adults, but what do sulfa's do? Just kill them?

Thanks for any thoughts,
~ Kristen

[Backfourty,MI.]

I thought kids nibble on dirt & anything else they can when little like that.
I never heard of Panacur for Cocci either. I also have never had a kid get cocci(coccidious-not sure on the spelling) but I always give all kids born here Di-Methox for a preventative from cocci. I do there treatments every 3 weeks.

I wish I could be more help but it seems like I read here not too long ago that Di-Methox was used for a preventative & Corid was used for a treatment of cocci.

[HappyFarmer]

No, panacure will not treat cocci. Sounds to me like you need to educate your vet on the subject.

Coccidiosis & Coccidia-Cocci is slang for both. Di-Methox 40% is for treatment. Di-Methox 12.5% is for prevention. I haven't seen the 40% in a long time, not sure they make it anymore. Some quick math will get the correct strenght & results.

HF

[deineria]

I used Corid to treat ours last year, and it took care of a bad case.
Panacure wouldn't help cocci - vet should know better.
Also, how hold are the kids? I would encourage them to feed whole milk.

[LomahAcres]

Thanks, it's good to know someone elses kids eat dirt That sounds like a funny thing to say.


Anyway, I use Albon 40% - same as di-methox inject-able but given orally, for treatment, and corid for prevention. You can use di-methox for prevention as well I just prefer corid. Di-methox entirely rids their system of it, where as corid just keeps it at bay not letting it reach the adult stage, leaving it in the system to help kids build a better immunity to it.


You can still get Di-Methox 40% from Valleyvet.com - that's where I buy mine. I hope they're not thinking about discontinuing it.

[LomahAcres]

Originally Posted by deineria

I used Corid to treat ours last year, and it took care of a bad case.
Panacure wouldn't help cocci - vet should know better.
Also, how hold are the kids? I would encourage them to feed whole milk.

Yes, I suggested whole milk as well. They were on a mixture of cow and goat milk here, but have been on the new milk for a few weeks now. They are 5-6 weeks old.

[LomahAcres]

Here's another question -

When treating for cocci with Albon/Di-methox, you give it for 5 days. Do you repeat the 5 day treatment in 10 days like you would for regular worms? Or is the 1 does enough, and then put them on corid after? Life cycle is 10-14 days right? So if you started the corid say a week after treatment, would that work or is it better to give 2 rounds of Albon/Di-methox? Then start on corid after 21 days? Or do you just fecal after the first round of Albon and see how well it worked and go by that, higher load 2nd round of albon, lower load start corid?

I'm still new to coccidiosis prevention, can you tell?