Buck breeding questions

[FarmboyBill]

Can u breed dad to daughter, gdaughters, and if so how far down would u continue to do it. Also, brothers to sisters. Ive had goats, never bred them. Have rabbits, and that is where my questions is comeing from.

[motdaugrnds]

In-line breeding can be advantageous; but it is really not for the novice.

I have bred father to daughters & to granddaughters to strengthened some nice characteristics in my herd; but that is far down as I will venture. I never breed syblings to each other as I think that is just asking for trouble.

The one thing you do "not" want to do is breed that buck to its own dam. It might turn out alright; but any kids born could be allergic to that dam's milk and not fair well; so I would be extremely watchful about doing this.

[KSALguy]

never heard of the allergic thing, and haveing bred son to mother and had no problems i dont see its validity,

but its correct in that breeding related animals togather is not really for the novice that doesnt know what they are looking/breeding for,

that said, Inbreeding and LineBreeding are not the devil and should not be treated as such, this is a topic that has come up fairly often and the same round and round arguments go into it each time, breeding the best to the best in ANY herd is the goal for improveing the quality of the animals in question, and useing Inbreeding can help this process along, when you breed related animals you find the bad and the good, if you find more bad than good you shouldnt be breeding this group of animals anyway and you find better genetics, if you find more good than bad and you GET RID of the bad as you go along you have just taken the requierd steps to improve and make your herd more consistant, there is no set rule of thumb as to how many times you can breed any one animal to his or her offspring, if you get the best quality results then keep going, dont put your self in a genetic bottle neck but if your paying attention to the whole picture you will see when new blood is needed,

[Alice In TX/MO]

I bred son to mother in my MiniManchas out of necessity this year. Got triplets that are beautiful.

Won't do it again because of the diminishing size issue with Minis.

[deineria]

I've read never breed full siblings, but daughter to sire is often done. I am not doing it at all since I know that I'm too new to use line breeding properly.

[billooo2]

I would not breed siblings..........probably the more common occurrence is half brother to half sister........or some variation of that theme.
I have never heard of the allergy "thing" either. I would love to hear the immunological explanation of that. If such allergies to milk could occur, then allergies to other things about the mother would also occur......

[motdaugrnds]

It was back in the late '90s when I bred an Alpine buck to his dam. She had triplets and all were sickly. Two died before I discovered what was wrong. The vet said they were allergic to her milk. I started bottle feeding the last one and she survived.

[billooo2]

Originally Posted by motdaugrnds

It was back in the late '90s when I bred an Alpine buck to his dam. She had triplets and all were sickly. Two died before I discovered what was wrong. The vet said they were allergic to her milk. I started bottle feeding the last one and she survived.

Thank you for sharing your experience. It seems to me that this sounds like it might be an isolated incident. I used to be involved in breeding and showing dogs, and there was a fair amount of close breeding like this without any problems. And I know of some goat breeders who do similar breedings.
In fact, the a buck that has been the Alpine Premier Sire at 3 ADGA Nationals (Pleasant-Grove Super Saga) is the result of breeding a buck (Pleasant-Graove Liason Superior) back to his maternal grandmother (Stardust Cordite Saba). http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDeta...ber=A001258058