Need help with a wether & UC

Lovin' FarmLife · #1 02/20/10, 06:27 PM

10 month old wether named Jack
He was crimped at 6 mos

He is exhibiting symptoms of UC.
He started biting at his penis and he kicks when he pee'd today.
Poop is normal, he is eating and drinking.
I have not taken his temp.
We drenched him today with 1.5 tsp of AC, the package says to do this for seven days.
We were feeding him 1/4 cup of Dumor Goat Sweet Feed 2x a day and a little beet pulp and lots of grass/alphalfa hay.
I have read that some don't feed any grain or pulp to wethers.
He also gets some goat minerals that have AC in them.
Please let me know what else I should be doing. We love this little guy and don't want anything to happen to him.
Thank you,
Gina

Alice In TX/MO · #2 02/20/10, 06:40 PM

All he needs is grass hay. Stop the feed.

LaManchaPaul · #3 02/20/10, 06:49 PM

LFL, Welcome to HT. Yea, just give plenty of hay and water... I'll wager that he'll be just fine with your treatment...

Backfourty,MI. · #4 02/21/10, 06:11 AM

Keep up with the AC. Does he have what looks like crystals stuck around or on the hair by his little wee wee? If he gets worse you may have to take him to your vet to have his pizzle cut off.

Definately stop with the sweet feed & Beet pulp! Make sure he has good alfafa/grass hay mix is what I would feed him.
Keep us posted on how he's doing & I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of you.

Alice In TX/MO · #5 02/21/10, 06:22 AM

The pizzle is the little worm thing on the end of his penis.

Bricheze · #6 02/21/10, 07:01 AM

Be sure to feed him more grass hay then alfalfa hay. If he eats just the leafy part of the alfalfa, it can be almost as bad as grain. I would feed only grass hay for at least a week or two.

Lovin' FarmLife · #7 02/21/10, 07:14 PM

Thank you for replying with advice, it is much appreciated.
I am just curious...has anyone every noticed that the when the Ammonium Chloride (AC), I think that is how you spell it, is added to water it kind of feels like it burns your skin...is it doing this to the goat too???
Like I said, I am just curious. I bought it from Hoeggers.
Thanks!

Backfourty,MI. · #8 02/22/10, 05:46 AM

I use to have a buck with UC & the ammonium Chloride I also would get from Hoeggers so it is the same stuff. It is like a strong salt is why it feels that way on your skin. I definately don't think it burns him but it will make him very thirsty so I would always make sure he has plenty of fresh water to drink. This time of year mine Love warm water, espeically if I put some Apple cider vinegar in it. They are all spoiled critters here, everything I have is spoiled!!

I also disagree with Briceze on the hay, if Hay is all he is getting he needs more of the alfafa/Grass hay mix as his calcium to phosphorus ratio needs to be at least 2:1 7 the cacium he gets from the alfafa. I still would definately stop all grain or sweet feed.

Keeping my fingers crossed for both of you, nothing worse I don't think than a male with UC problems! I've been there so I know what your going through.

deetu · #9 02/22/10, 08:30 AM

Minelson had a recipe for making tasty AC balls that she feeds her male. This way she knew he was getting the right amount.

I know alot of people don't agree with this but I have helped unplug a couple of boys by using a spray bottle filled with half water/half white vinegar and spraying it into the sheath, filling it by holding the opening closed around the sprayer, then massaging the liquid around for a while, then letting it drain. They seemed to like it so I don't believe it burned. I really believe it helped.

Alice In TX/MO · #10 02/22/10, 08:46 AM

More info:

http://fiascofarm.com/goats/stones.htm

LaManchaPaul · #11 02/22/10, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deetu

Minelson had a recipe for making tasty AC balls that she feeds her male. This way she knew he was getting the right amount.

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I guess that Ms. Minelson is watching another movie!!! Here is the info I lifted from her post.
Here is how I do it...
1 cup fine bread crumbs (or oatmeal)
1/4 cup Slippery Elm Bark powder
1 Tablespoon AC Ammonium Chloride,
mix all these together in a bowl and then add
1/4 Cup molasses (or honey)
Splash of water
Mix all together with hands until you have a dough like consistency. If it's still a little crumbly just add a little bit more water. I make a log out of it and cut it into 12 even size pieces. Then make each piece into a ball. I sprinkle a little Slippery elm bark on top of the balls and roll them around to coat each ball so they don't stick to each other in the bag. Put in a plastic bag in the fridge. There you have it!
If you want to use more AC just take the amount you would use for 12 days and add that instead of the 1 tablespoon I use. So if you wanted to give a full teaspoon it would be 4 Tablespoons. By Minelson.

Minelson · #12 02/22/10, 03:57 PM

No Paul...Actually I was taking a nap!

Lately I have been doing the dosage ball with peanut butter and that is working good too.
1/2 c peanut butter
1/4 c Slippery elm bark
1 tbs AC
I sure hope Jack is ok...update??

Lovin' FarmLife · #13 02/22/10, 07:08 PM

Thanks again for the info and here is an update...

He is urinating but he doesn't still look uncomfortable doing it.
Today is the third and last day that we drenched him with AC...only because I think he almost choked

...I am going to try to get the AC in him a different way...the one question that I have is that for treatment the label on the bag says to give 1.5 tsp/daily of AC in a small amount of water, that seemed like alot more than it said on the Fiasco site.

Minelson - now I remember seeing the AC balls recipe...I am going to try that...I am not a fan of drenching...was also having a hard time getting the end of the syringe to stay on.