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Old 09/07/09, 08:22 PM
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Pygmy / Nubian breeding problem?

The new Nubian buck jumped the fence (5 1/2 feet high, I just did not think he could do it - lol) and bred with (assuming because it happened at night and I woke my husband up because IT all woke me up) with our 40lb (MAX) Pygmy doe. She might already be pregnant from our Pygmy buck (as she is kept with him and the other two are ready to kid now), and I hope this is the case, but I worry about the size of the kids if she does get pregnant from the Nubian. I know Kinders are Pygmy buck / Nubian doe crosses, but of course, size is not an issue there. . .but anyone know if this could or will harm her?
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Old 09/07/09, 08:49 PM
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Hopefully since she stays in with the pygmy buck he has most likely bred her, keep your fingers crossed anyways, but a Pygmy doe bred by a Nubian buck could most likely have babies to big for her little body causing kidding problems for her.
Pygmies are year around breeders though so if she is always with the pygmy buck she is maybe already PG?
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Old 09/07/09, 08:52 PM
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I hope so. Usually, Pygmy does have singles the first and second pregnancy, so hopefully, if there was a Nubian breeding. . .Ugh!
I just hope she is already PG.

We are in the process of moving to our new farm and brought this Buck in because he had to go from where he was, and I just assumed he's stay behind that fence. . .silly thing to do. I knew we'd do electric and higher fence at the new place.
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Old 09/11/09, 02:03 PM
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Anyone?

Anyone have this happen with a good outcome?
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Old 09/11/09, 03:42 PM
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I dont know anything about Nubians but I bred my 2 angora bucks, 150lbs plus, to my pygmy does.
Both does had one kidding before from a pygmy buck. Both had twins.
One doe was 65 pounds and the other 75 pounds.
They both gave me twin pygora kids with no probs.

A 40 pound pygmy?

All you can do is wait and hope and if she matters a lot, have a vet at the ready for an emergency c-section.

Or, have a gun ready to do your own emergency c-section, but you loose the doe, hence the gun.
We had to do that once (unplanned pg in a very young pygmy by a pygmy buck that got out)and we saved the kid.
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Old 09/11/09, 03:56 PM
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If it just happened, call your vet, explain the situation and have him/her prescribe a dose of lutalyse. Give it to her within 11 days of the breeding and she will not keep the pregnancy, but will come back into heat. Then you breed her back to the Pygmy buck.

Saves five months of worrying and the chance of losing the doe.
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Our pygmy bred to our large nubian and she was fine. She had big babies - twins no less. One was a bit smaller than the other. I could have sworn it would kill her but she just took longer in the delivery. It was her first one anyway and I could have died that she got bred to our "horse". She did fine, we had to move a leg on one of them because it seemed like he was having issues and so was she - in hindsight she probably would have been fine. We were just panicking. I would be extra careful with hormones from the vet unless he is going to do a pregnancy check for you where they can be absolutely certain. Goats are nerve racking creatures aren't they.

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I was sure my Nigerians were bred to the ND buck last year. We had 2 kiddings of mini Nubians. Both were first timers. It worked out fine for us, but lute is your safe option.
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Old 09/11/09, 10:45 PM
 
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When I luted my goats to abort I waited 14 days to using it to make sure that the egg was planted. FOund the info in Dairygoatinfo.
just an FYI
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