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Old 08/31/09, 09:14 AM
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Need some quick help

My Alpine goat delivered last night and everything that could have gone wrong, did. I noticed the "string" about 3 and she was laboring fine. Walking around and lying down to make it through. Then she started pushing about 6 and we had to "help" pull out the baby after 30 min or so. The baby was dead. Now, this morning she seems fine: eating, grazing, drinking, calling out but only in answer to the other goats that are not in the birthing fence. She has normal poop, and her "backside" is a little swollen but not bloody or too bad looking.
She was not due until Sept 9th and that is the earliest because of when we brought the buck to her. She still looks a little plump but nothing like before birthing. This was her first time.
The problem is, I can't get any milk out of her. I know it's not really milk and that there will only be a table spoon or so, but she is rock hard and I thought trying to squeeze a little out would help. I was able to get one sides plug out but not the other. Neither side has any milk showing at all.
Could this be that she was not ready to birth and is therefore not ready to have milk? She does not have a fever and her udder, although rock hard, is not hot and she doesn't seem overly in pain when I tried hot compresses and massage.
Any info would be great. I am at a loss right now. I am wondering if this baby, which was pretty small, was a stillbirth that came earlier than it should have. Could she still have another baby in there that will come when it is time? I tried bouncing but have never had successs with that anyway. Thanks everyone.
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Old 08/31/09, 01:31 PM
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Replying only to bump this up hoping that someone can help.
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Old 08/31/09, 02:46 PM
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Have you tried "bouncing" her to see if there's another kid in there? Straddle her, facing towards her tail, and with both hands, lift her belly just in front of the udder. If there's another kid, you should be able to feel "lumps". If she's done, it will be soft and smooth and squishy. Oh, did she pass the afterbirth? If she's retained it, that's not good, and you need to call your vet.

As for the milk, it's possible that she's not producing because of the early birth. Would Sept. 9 have been day 145 or day 150? I had a couple of early kiddings this year, one on day 141 and one on day 142. I lost a kid from the first one, but its twin, and the other pair of twins did just fine. Keep up with the warm compresses, try giving her vit. C (they usually like the chewables ) and you could try about a tablespoon of raspberry leaves. I've heard that it helps, although I've not tried it - and it won't hurt her!
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Old 09/01/09, 11:30 AM
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she should make milk at that late stage in pregnancy for sure. it sounds like her udder is congested. has she been tested for CAE?
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Old 09/01/09, 11:37 AM
 
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We had a FF this year that had "plugs" in her teats. We actually thought she had blind teats - i.e., no orifice. We didn't know what we were doing. Anyway, her kids managed to suck out the plugs somehow and the teats opened up. I've since read that you can clear the plugs. Perhaps someone on here can give better instructions as I've never done it before. But it was recommended to soak the teat in warm water first and then squeeze to see if you can clear it easily.
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Old 09/01/09, 11:53 AM
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OMG-I thought cows were bad enough when we were milking them! I know about mastitis, which can cause a hard bag, but not plugs. Our DIL has goats and just had one come in with a meaty bag, no milk. She is shipping it. Hope you can have better luck. I will be looking to see what you find out.

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