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Cydectin ?
Is it better to use the pour on orally, injectabe orally or buy the sheep drench? Its a heck of allot more either way than what I need but the vet said its what I have to have.
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What I have used for years(I worm my adults twice a year at most), is the Cydectin topical, used orally. I'm not about to change whats worked so well, so I don't know about the other forms.
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Do you have to do a milk withdrawl on this wormer? How long?
Can you please post dosages?
I wormed my doe with ivermectin after she had her kids but I think she still looks a bit pale and could use better weight.
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07/07/09, 08:27 PM
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I am using the milk for myself and my family, feeding calves, kids etc. Not *selling* it.
I do not use any milk withdrawal time. My vet said he doesn't reccomend a withdrawal time, but if you are worried, to wait a week. I have heard that the "official" withdrawal time is like 48 days??
I would be worried about it if I was selling milk, but I'm not.
The dosage is 5 cc's per 100 lb. If guesstimating, always guess high and round up. The worst thing you can do is underdose. It is a very safe wormer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozark_jewels
The dosage is 5 cc's per 100 lb. If guesstimating, always guess high and round up. The worst thing you can do is underdose. It is a very safe wormer.
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How effective is it on lice?
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07/07/09, 08:41 PM
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How effective is it on lice?
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I don't think it will do much for lice if given orally as it should be. Might be better off using a pour-on lice product or an injectable ivermectin for that.
I don't usually have lice problems....but I don't think its because of Cydectin, more likely because I have a very airy and open barn situation.
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fiasco farms has the withdrawl times.
If the horse wormer quest is the same drug but four times stronger does anyone know why I shouldnt use it, its quite a bit more affordable at this time for me.
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I use Cydectin and really like it. Every other year I use Ivermectin Plus. As for lice, I have noticed my goats scratching though have not seen any signs of the varmen. However, I do not hesitate to work some "7 dust" (regularly used on gardens) into their fur; then after a few hours, give them a good, soapy bath. (rofl I always enjoy giving them baths!)
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I have read where alot of people with only a few goats use Quest.
I found this in my notes from dairygoatinfo.com
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Quest® Gel moxidectin~Contains 20 mg moxidectin/mL ......Quest is 4x's stronger than Cydectin.
So, if the dose for Cydectin is 1cc/25# or 4cc/100, Quest would be 1cc/100#'s or 1/4cc per 25#.
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I inject Injectable Cydectin at 1ml per 50lbs. of goat. Of course, I also use a 2nd wormer- such as Valbazen or Pyrantel Pamoate (2 different families)- as suggested by Dr. Sharon Patton, a parasitologist at U. of TN vet school.
I've had good results for years with a double-up method.
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I have 3 adult goats and just split one tube of Quest 3 ways for them......works well and they keep the gel in the back of their mouths better than a liquid getting coughed all over me!! I guess I've been going a bit strong with it (2x per year), but everyone seems to have survived my ignorance....
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We use cydectin per Ozark Jewels' recommendation, and our goats are fine.
Oh, heck, they're great, y'know? Even that noisy doe is wonderful. 
Not noticing any lice, but the fly strike has been a bear this year. I rubbed some Flygel on the goats, though, and that works great. Smells good, too. 
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There is an oral formula for a reason. I don't recommend putting an external product inside them. Just dose it properly and use the oral drench orally.
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Originally Posted by hoofinitnorth
There is an oral formula for a reason. I don't recommend putting an external product inside them. Just dose it properly and use the oral drench orally.
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Not trying to be a smart aleck, but out of genuine curiosity -- what exactly is the reason for the oral product? Seriously. I mean, if it's essentially the same product, why is there a systemic and a topical formulation?
And what, exactly, would be the difference between the two?
Thanks in advance for your response.
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I have used the cydectin and more recently the Quest and I am personally happier using the quest.
I also googled the drug name for use in humans, I believe it's Monidextin but don't have it in front of me right now. Anyway, there is a study done, and I will try to find the link, of it being tested on humans for a parasite use and found safe in doses of 9 to 36 mg according to that study.
Sorry, Moxidectin-here's the link
http://jcp.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/43/10/1108
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07/09/09, 10:07 PM
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the pour ons often contain some type of patrolium product to make them water resitstant, such as most back rub insectisides are made to mix with disel fuel, and if you have ever smelled the topicals, I dont know what is in them but they have a carrier.
Maybe I missed something but isnt quest the only "oral" form of moxidectin?
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If the product is meant to be used externally why on earth would you want to use it internally. It's kinda like Frontline for your dog... would you pour that in his mouth?
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several months ago I had my BIL look at this issue. He is a neurologist who is an expert in drug route administration in humans. His recommendation was to NOT give a pour on med as an oral administration, but to give an injectable as an injectable..
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Originally Posted by goatsareus
several months ago I had my BIL look at this issue. He is a neurologist who is an expert in drug route administration in humans. His recommendation was to NOT give a pour on med as an oral administration, but to give an injectable as an injectable..
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Injectable? Wait a minute. I thought we were talking about internal and external application of meds...
Don't confuse me. I'm already a confused person.
I see the point, however, and it's well-taken.
Thank you, all!
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Injectable? Wait a minute. I thought we were talking about internal and external application of meds...
Don't confuse me. I'm already a confused person.
I see the point, however, and it's well-taken.
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LOL, read the very first post again..
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