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Old 06/21/09, 08:42 AM
 
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old goat, very sick

I have a 7 yo goat that is standing off by herself, stopped eating yesterday, and seems to have very pale gums. I haven't taken her temp, but she isn't hot to the touch. I took her a pail of water and she tried to drink a little. I can't find any obvious sign of the problem, so I know any guess would just be a shot in the dark, but I'd appreciate any suggestions. Her coat is real rough and she is prety skinny, I have wormed, and the rest of the goats look good. She does have a 2 month baby, but her bag felt empty, too.
Thanks for any thoughts on her..
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Old 06/21/09, 09:27 AM
 
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7 years old isn't that old. I had one live until 16.
I'd be taking in a fecal sample to the vet. Some worms are resistant to certain wormers. Maybe your wormer isn't working with this doe.
Take her temp.
what did you use to worm her and when?
What are you feeding her?
Does she have good minerals?
Does the kid look and feel like it's getting enough milk from her?

And thats just a start. I'm sure that others will have more to add.
There are so many things that could be happening. Need more info.
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Old 06/21/09, 10:08 AM
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Since her gums are pale I would say she has a worm problem. Move quickly on this, they go down fast.
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Old 06/21/09, 10:56 AM
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If you run a fecal and it comes out clear, I would think about the condition of her teeth next. If they can't chew the food, they won't do half as well as they should.
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Old 06/21/09, 11:05 AM
 
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She has been eating well, just went off her feed yesterday. I wormed her with Ivermectin, orally and poured on too. I'll go to town and get some paste wormer and get it down her. Her baby is about 2 months old and seems to be doing well, she is eating browse and I'll make sure she gets some extra feed. Thanks for the info.....
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Old 06/21/09, 01:11 PM
 
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just an update, I went out to check on her on my way to town, and she was down and crying so pittifully. I propped her head up on a flake of hay and put some water in her mouth. When I got back she was dead.
this goat got kicked in the head when she was a baby and I kept her in the house for weeks teaching her how to stand and then to walk again. She would just go in circles for a long time then finally straightend out. She was really part of the family, I have her little girl to raise, so I'm gratefull for that.
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Old 06/21/09, 04:24 PM
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I'm so sorry you lost her - I have one I'm very close to and can only imagine how sad you are - hug the kid.
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Old 06/21/09, 04:26 PM
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So sorry for your loss She sounds like she was extra special to you Hugs to you
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just an update, I went out to check on her on my way to town, and she was down and crying so pittifully. I propped her head up on a flake of hay and put some water in her mouth. When I got back she was dead.
this goat got kicked in the head when she was a baby and I kept her in the house for weeks teaching her how to stand and then to walk again. She would just go in circles for a long time then finally straightend out. She was really part of the family, I have her little girl to raise, so I'm gratefull for that.
P.J.
So so Sorry..... it is always tough to loose a little friend, especially a wonderful doe like her! I wonder why she went down so quickly? Really. my thoughts are with you.
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Old 06/21/09, 04:57 PM
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I'm so sorry you lost her.
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Oh thats sad. So sorry.
And there is the baby to take care of. Are you thinking of pan feeding it milk?
Alfalfa pellets will help,too.
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Old 06/22/09, 12:58 PM
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I am so so sorry for your loss. It is so hard.
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Old 06/22/09, 01:11 PM
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I am so very sorry for your loss. She sounds like a very special goat. Having one of her babies must be somewhat of a comfort to you and your family.
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Old 06/22/09, 01:15 PM
 
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So sorry.

I would worm regularly with Ivermectin and Safeguard, alternating each month. I had a doeling that went down the same way you said. Vet did an narcoropsy (sp) expecting to find pneumonia but found her infested with worms which really surprised mus because I was worming on a regular basis. On this site, found all the answers, bought Cydectin, gave it to all the goats and even my foundation does put on so much weight that I had to buy them new collars.

Now I only worm twice a year with the Cydectin or if the kids need, Valbacin and don't over worm. If I think there is a problem, I will take a stool to the vet. My regular dog vet will do my goat stool readings.

I suggest that you take another goat's or mix a couple of goat's stool to the vet for a reading. And remember not to feed replacer to the little girl
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Old 06/22/09, 09:07 PM
 
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Thanks all, her name was Tuffy, because I said if she lived though everything she went through as a baby, she was pretty tough!! Some of you might remember from a couple of months ago, she was the one that lost her baby, but just kept looking for two days and finally found her. Her baby won't have any part of the bottle but will eat some pellets so I think she'll be alright. I've got water down where she can reach it and she's browsing and eating grass.
I had just wormed everyone a few weeks ago, and did re-worm tuffy, because she didn't look as good as I thought she should. I think I will alternate with the safegaurd, I've been using Ivermect for a long time and maybe they have built some resistance to it.
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Old 06/22/09, 09:40 PM
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You may want to look into Cydectin.
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Old 06/23/09, 06:35 AM
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I am so sorry you lost her. Always tough when that happens. Big Hugs to you & the little baby.
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