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Old 06/18/09, 09:08 AM
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Question HUGE lump on goat's neck

I had a friend call me and ask me about a lump on her goat's neck. I was thinking CL, but when she described it she said it is as large or larger than a pint jar. It is on the side of the neck and seems fairly hard. It is a Boer goat. She said that it does not seem to bother the goat at all. They noticed it when they got back from a trip. Any ideas?

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Old 06/18/09, 10:21 AM
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I wonder if it is swelling from being kicked or an insect bite. I would still be very cautious about CL even thought it's so huge. Could it be a reaction to a vaccination?

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Old 06/18/09, 12:18 PM
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cl abscess can come in different sizes. i would isolate the goat and have the content of the abscess tested.
boer goat and neck area alone doesn't sound too good.

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Bottle jaw? Can you post a pic? No it wouldnt be vac lump...those are usually either in the armpit or front shoulder. And not that size.

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bottle jaw is not hard, more squishy

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Old 06/18/09, 07:03 PM
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I haven't seen it yet. I am going over there tomorrow to look at it. I will take a picture.

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Did this pop up all of a sudden or come on gradually? Any possiblity of a cyst?

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Old 06/22/09, 01:17 PM
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I finally got pictures of the lump on the goats neck. They were out of town and when they came home they noticed it.

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WOW!!!! Is it still growing?? It seems very unusual for something to get that large so quickly.

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Do goats get goiters?

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WOW~! That's quite a 'hema-tomato' you got there! Seriously, it looks like a hematoma. It probably has blood and fluid in it and lancing it is iffy because it does nothing but make more blood and fluid.

I doubt this is CL- hematomas come up very quickly and will grow out big-

OTOH, it could also be a huge salivary cyst- which will have the blood and fluid as well, but also some pus- runny pus, not cheesy. But my money is on hematoma.

It's vet time.

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yes, they can get goiter. very easy to test with iodine along the spine. should see a reaction very fast and swelling would go down.

i would visit a vet with her and have it checked out. could be a salivary gland that is blocked? how does it feel like?
i personally have no experience with cl and although it is the location, i have no clue if it can get that big???????

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My money is on a hematoma too. I had a Standardbred racehorse go down on concrete (brainless wonder) and get a huge one on his rump. Took a long time to go down - and the vet said no point in trying to drain it. If I remember correctly, we used DMSO on it, but don't think I'd want to use that on a goat!

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I used DMSO on my filly's hematoma which was about the size of a soccer ball. It helped a lot but I got it all over my hands because it was such a big area - I thought that that was going to be a problem but it took the swelling out of my joints. DMSO is a carrier so I combined it with aspirin.

I doubt that it would hurt a goat - just do not put it on open sores.

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yes, they can get goiter. very easy to test with iodine along the spine. should see a reaction very fast and swelling would go down.

i would visit a vet with her and have it checked out. could be a salivary gland that is blocked? how does it feel like?
i personally have no experience with cl and although it is the location, i have no clue if it can get that big???????
Susanne, would you explain what you mean about the iodine along the spine? Thanks.
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goiter (enlargement of the thyroid gland) is caused by iodine deficiency.
if you put iodine tincture along the spine, it will be absorbed through the skin. the faster is gets absorbed, the more the body was deficient.
after this first aid, you need to look in the minerals and/or diet of the goat. add some organic iodine to the mineral mix if that is/was the problem.
kelp is also a good source of iodine.

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Old 06/22/09, 08:29 PM
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how does it feel like?
It felt hard like a tennis ball... not like a rock.

By the way, thanks everyone. I am passing all the information along to the owner.
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goiter (enlargement of the thyroid gland) is caused by iodine deficiency.
if you put iodine tincture along the spine, it will be absorbed through the skin. the faster is gets absorbed, the more the body was deficient.
after this first aid, you need to look in the minerals and/or diet of the goat. add some organic iodine to the mineral mix if that is/was the problem.
kelp is also a good source of iodine.
Do you purchase iodine tincture from the health food store?
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you can get this from your vet.

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A friend just went through salivary cyst on her goat. It did balloon up quickly and she took him to Cornell for the diagnosis and surgery. He's fine now.

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