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Old 06/05/09, 04:18 PM
 
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pneumonia shots?

I found a kid that mom could not take care of due to lack of milk. I took her and wanted to give her a chance. I gave her cows milk as I have read that milk replacer will kill them faster than anything. I kept expecting her to die and she did great for this week. Today I found her to not be eating as well. She had a slight sneeze after eating.

I was sure she was getting something so I took her to the local vet who gave her a shot of nuflor and then charged me $50 and would not answer my questions as there was an emergency in the back.

I am not sure if she is going to make it. I have never been able to bottle feed a kid to adulthood. This time the mom had not abandened it but just had no milk so I wanted to give it a chance. I thought this would be different.

I am wondering if the adults need a vaccine for the pneumonia and if that would help the babies. It seems like they get that really easily. We are working on breeding resistance in but it is not happening quickly. These are the most unhardy animals ever. I thought sheep were bad. We need to get another breed as these goats are just itching to die.
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Old 06/05/09, 05:47 PM
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Any baby animal that hasn't gotten the colostrum will be more likely to die.

I am confused about the connection between pneumonia, the kid, and bottle feeding. Did the vet say the kid has penumonia? Do your goats get pneumonia on a regular basis? Are the bottle kids dying from pneumonia or scours?

I find bottle feeding to be an art. I have no idea how people raise (with ease, apparently) kids on bottles and have them do well, because mine never did. But I think it is because my conditions were harsher than the average goat herd, and that there was a lot of acquired immunity within the dam raised animals that the bottle kids didn't get as much of.
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Old 06/05/09, 08:53 PM
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When I have bottle raised kids it was 100% successful.
Cows milk. CDT at 1 week and again at 3 weeks.
I always let them have fresh colostrum for a full 24 hours, the first 24 hours after being born, from some goat!

There is no preventive pneumonia vaccine, that I ever heard of. If the goat does have pneumonia you could treat it yourself with a 5 day round of PenG.
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Old 06/05/09, 08:56 PM
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Oh and what is wrong with the doe if she has a dysfunctional udder?
What makes you think she had no milk? The first 24 hours she has colostrum.
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Old 06/06/09, 01:00 AM
 
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A good product to vaccinate with for upper respiratory issues- and yes, pneumonia- is Poly-Serum/Bova-Sera/Goat Serum.

They all do essentially the same thing- protect the immune system from the early baby nasties- pasteurella pneumonia, e.Coli, Salmonella, newborn diarrhea, etc.

I give all my babies a shot of this the day they are born. Gives em' a bump up. It works wonders on my herd.
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Old 06/06/09, 08:03 PM
 
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Do you know this serum is a blood product, and you can not trace it as to if it came from tested does or not? It an ID-1 which was a colostrum product both pose the exact same problems, you do not know if the products come from tested herds.

OP, sorry your post isn't clear to what the problems are. I have a article, from birth to kidding on goatkeeping 101 at dairygoatinfo.com I update it frequently. Kids who don't recieve quality colostrum in the first 12 hours of life simply are doomed, they are born sterile, the only immunity they have until you start vaccinating or the live through low levels of disease is colostrum. Very young does colostrum has very little immunity in it.

If you are having problems with pnemonia vaccinate for it. Nearly all pnemonia in goats is pasturella unless its from CAE or other chornic health conditions. Most catalogs including jeffers carries the new pasturella vaccines for goats, they work really well, make sure and give the vaccination exactly as the directions and give it over the last rib, do not give it near the front leg as it can make them lame for awhile. Do not use nasal or cattle vaccines because they carry pnemonia strains goats simply don't get.

You also might want to (if you don't milk for sale or house milk) is to put your does on feed through tetracycline, either pellets you buy for calves from your feed dealer, or you can mix aueromycin crumbles (once again we have this info on goatkeeping 101) and use this late winter early spring. It works really well if you get way too much rain and your shelter is not high and dry. I know feed through antibiotics have a bad taste in some folks mouths, but it is just for 2 or 3 months and you do what you have to do for a successful kidding season on your farm. Does fighting weather like you and I can have, simply need some help. This way you can get healthy robust kids so they can wean out and be strong for our horrid summers Good luck with this. Vicki
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