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Old 06/02/09, 12:47 PM
 
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Underweight pregnant doe and Alfalfa question

I got a new Nubian doe- 2 yrs old- supposed to be due in June that I intend to use for home milking use. She appears fairly underweight- but since I am new to goats she may not be? But you can see her backbone and hips fairly prominatly. My question is how much can I safely feed her?

I have her on alfalfa but was also just told but another goat raiser in the area that you needed to take does off Alfalfa 2-3 weeks before they kid?? She does not like the grass hay that I have.

Also feeding her 1 lb of Purina medicated goat feed (kid starter that they gave me at the feed store) 2-3 x a day.
I also don't think that I want her eating this feed when I am milking her as it is medicated?

So help please with the best natural feed program I can get her on?
I am used to raising horses and use oil and ground flax on hard keepers, are these also good for goats?

Thanks!

Anne
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Old 06/02/09, 01:54 PM
 
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She needs the alfalfa free choice! She needs the calcium in it.
Add ahandful of BOSS (black oil sunflower seed) to her feed. Good digestable protein & oils.
I dont use purina products so someone else will chime in on that.
She may be in need of worming..is her coat rough? Does she have nice bright pink eyelids?
Does she normally look underweight? The reasons for some of the questions is that if you are fairly new to kidding those hips can really stick out as those babies drop.
Can you post of apic of her?
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Old 06/02/09, 02:01 PM
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Does the BOSS need to be with the shells off, or can goats handle it with the seed shells? (sorry to sidetrack, I've been wanting to know this for a while.)
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Old 06/02/09, 02:29 PM
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shells on, they wont hurt her and its cheeper to buy whole than allready shelled lol,
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If you like Purina products than simply half the sack you have now with the Purina goat chow for milkers. When you run out of the medicated, she will then be on straight chow. Adding BOSS is fine, it's high in fat.

A doe who just freshens is milking alot of calories, so feed her well. All the alfalfa she wants, minerals, lots of clean water, and grain on the milkstand when you milk her twice a day.

Be very careful with your horse information, they are single stomached hay burners goats have 4 chambers of that stomach and too much grain or too much oils, too much molassas and you have acidosis which can kill your doe.

If you are feeding her 1 pound of grain a day, take a week to slowly build it to two, another week to slowly build it to three...a good size doe will eat this much for maintence and even more to stay in milk.

Young milkers are the hardest group to keep any weight on at all, they milk off everything you give them...my 3 are 14 months old and all three are milking over 8 pounds, being 125 and 135 pounds they are thin....really thin for my herd But lean is not a bad thing, it's soo much better than fat.

Always feel over the ribs of your doe, if you feel just ribs than yes you are right she needs more calories, if you feel her ribs but there is some flesh on them, than pregnant or not she is perfect....now grab a handful of fat over the lower ribs, shes fat. Vicki
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Old 06/02/09, 05:13 PM
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I've got a yearling (15 months old) who is thinner than I'd like, but she's giving almost eight pounds of milk a day...I'm feeding her free-choice alfalfa hay, plus COB (dry), a double handful of Calf Manna, and a good handful of BOSS on the milking stand. What she doesn't finish there she gets to finish after I'm done milking her, although she has to share with my other doe! (The other doe has a little Boer in her, and it's a lot easier to keep weight on her.) She's not gaining any weight yet, but at least she doesn't seem to be losing any, either.

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Old 06/03/09, 01:13 PM
 
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What about mixing straight grains? oats and corn? I would like to stay as unprocessed as possible when I am milking her.
Also what and how much wormer if she is due to kid anytime now?
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Old 06/03/09, 01:55 PM
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Whitehedge, all I feed my milkers other than their browse/grass hay is alfalfa and oats (and like to feed BOSS too when it's not sky high). Of course they also have a good loose mineral, important.
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Old 06/22/09, 02:11 AM
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I feed mine oats and barely. I have some cob, both dry and with molasses and they just don't care for it much... other than that they get a mix of alfalfa and timothy hay pellets free choice and a mixed pasture. They also have seaweed meal and baking soda free choice and I add raw apple cider vinegar to their water. I put some minerals as a top dressing on their grain everyday. They eat what they want of it.
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