Doe Had Twins Acting Out Of It

[KittenMittens89]

My doe Lily has kidded twins yesterday in the pouring down rain. She has yet to perk up eat some food or drink. She produced more than enough colostrum. She is just sorta standing next to the dog house like I don't feel well. The day she kidded she ate very well and drank 5 gallons of water. I offered her molasses water and she won't drink that. She is usually a very good mama and left her babies out in the pouring rain. I put them in with her and she began her mothering again. I was wondering what I could do for her seeing as we need the colostrum. Would an antibiotic be good to get her started on? How about some yogurt? Maybe some Vitamin B complex to get her to eat? I am kind of new. So what would be good safe things to do that the babies could still drink her milk? By the way I realized some of this didn't sound right she birthed outside her shelter then it began to rain she took shelter and left them. Also the dog house is not her shelter she has a bigger place that her and her babies can fit in. Please help! We already lost a doe this year that got sick from being to weak to deliver her placenta I don't want anything else to happen.

[Alice In TX/MO]

Sounds like milk fever, which is low blood calcium. I'm going to refer you to another site for info....

http://dairygoatinfo.com/index.php/topic,21.0.html

[deetu]

If you have Tumms in the house, give her some. If it is calcium that will perk her right up. If not, then there may be another problem.

Did she pass her placenta?

[KittenMittens89]

She does get alfalfa pellets and grain. Our feed mill sells a mix of food that has minerals in it. We buy that. I was giving her 1 lb. alfalfa early gestation then in the last month 2 lb. Besides she was eating 1 lb or so of grain depended on the day. If she ate both and was still hungry she got a half pound alfalfa. So I really can't see how she would have been deficient. In total in the end she would eat about 3 lbs or more. She was fed good hay. I was also constantly clipping things for her to eat.

[KittenMittens89]

Did pass her placenta thankfully! We have tums quick pak. Could i put that in yogurt or water and syringe it in her mouth?

[Alice In TX/MO]

If I'm reading correctly, the feed balance isn't right. That's too much grain for the amount of alfalfa.

Also, sometimes goats fed EXACTLY right still go into milk fever because their metabolism goes wonky and throws all the calcium into the milk.

[KittenMittens89]

Okay I see will change that. How much do you recommend? I was trying to find what would be right because she was so hungry at the time even if she had great hay.

[KittenMittens89]

She eats like a horse and you can tell when she is hungry or just wanting food.

[prairiedog]

tums will not give the amount of calcium she needs if it is milk fever. She needs injectable calcium (CMPK) not oral. Give 30 cc 15cc in each side sub-q every 2 to 3 hours till she improves. B vitamin shot wouldn't hurt either

[Alice In TX/MO]

Here's the article on dairgygoatinfo.com that has the specifics on how much of each to feed.

http://dairygoatinfo.com/index.php/topic,22.0.html

[KittenMittens89]

I went out and she has drank 1/2 gallon warm molasses water and seemed a bit more perky. Thanks Alice so much for helping me out. I will check out the link. I do not have anything else prariedog and can't get anywhere either no vehicle. Or else I would get something. I gave her 2 packets. It has 1000 mg of calcium carbonate per packet. She took it all. I have been milking her out and bottle feeding the babies as she has not been giving them proper care. I have a lot of this tums quik pak thing so couldn't i just give her enough to equal the amount she needs? or is it just way to low?

[KittenMittens89]

Thank you very much I just read it and that was super helpful! I am now on the right track as far as that goes it's just saving my doe now. I am the ideal third option. This is her second kidding and she is 3 years old. I can't get anywhere to get anything. I have tums and Vitamin B Complex. You give 6 cc vitamin b complex am I right. I can't remember we got it for a younger goat quite a while ago. She weighs 130 pounds.

[KittenMittens89]

I am sharing these articles with my newbie friends. I don't want them going through the same thing. I have cared for a few of their goats and know they feed them like I do. So thanks a bunch!

[KittenMittens89]

I got a real brilliant answer on Fias Co Farm website. It said check the bottle. Um duh! However my bottle ain't very clear on the issue 1 to 2 cc per 100 lbs. So 1 or 2? I know it can't hurt so I am going with 2. However I would like a more sure answer than that.

[KittenMittens89]

She is really looking down now will antibiotics help? Laying down now. But she has been standing a long time to.

[cayenne47]

I give my full grown does about 6cc of Vit B. Do you have Bo-se? Did you worm her?See if someone can go to the co-op or whatever you have and get you some keto-drench. It saved one of my does. Its calcium and all that good stuff. Brought her right back, And it wasnt expensive, maybe $7 for a bottle.

[KittenMittens89]

I like not long after gave her 3 cc more of vitamin b because something told me it wasn't enough. So I wound up I giving 6 cc total of vitamin b. No one can get home till 6 pm. She is not looking that great. I just gave her some water and she drank a gallon of that. She picked at her food but what little she ate she spit back out. I am about to worm her as we type.

[KittenMittens89]

Originally Posted by cayenne47

I give my full grown does about 6cc of Vit B. Do you have Bo-se? Did you worm her?See if someone can go to the co-op or whatever you have and get you some keto-drench. It saved one of my does. Its calcium and all that good stuff. Brought her right back, And it wasnt expensive, maybe $7 for a bottle.

I am going to have a hard time as brother doesn't have a celly. I would have to call someone's house to get someone's number to ask that person to ask their husband whom he works for to get my brother to call me back on his cell phone. However at this rate I'll do anything lol.

[Alice In TX/MO]

This drifts up from some misty memory, and it's not based on experience. If you have other milk for the babies, milk this doe less so that her body isn't trying to make lots of milk.

[KittenMittens89]

Got a hold of someone to get the Keto drench! She was showing a slight interest in her babies. It should be able to be bought at TSC correct?