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03/21/09, 11:44 PM
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Auction today
We took our billy goat Billy to the auction today. He just got to mean for me to handle right now with my arm fractured. That and we wanted to phase out the pygmy's as we are leaning towards Lamanchas. I was in shock...he only brought 27 dollars!! The reason? LOL The owner told me he was too FAT!! Dang i must be over feeding my babies. Saying that, the only Lamancha at the auction was with a doe kid.. you'll never guess what they brought!!! 230$ yes you read right, her udder wasn't that good, and the doe kid had supernumary (extra teet)
ALSO we learned that, starting April 1, you can not sale goat or sheep at the auction without a government scrapies tag. What in the heck!! So now i have to call and get this tag number for all my goats??? If you bring goats or sheep to auction without the tag, they add 1.50 a head.
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03/22/09, 06:55 AM
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"NCIS related"??????
Gibbs, McGee, Denozo and Abby have overstepped their bounds this time.
Maybe you meant NAIS!
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03/22/09, 07:03 AM
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It's been similar to that for dairy cows in OK for some time now. If they are over six months old and sexually intact for breeding, they have to have a TB negative results to be sold at public auction.
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03/22/09, 07:41 AM
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That is the scrapie program... They just made it mandatory in PA as well. Here you can't move a goat from the farm at all without a tag. Not even if your just taking them to the vet for instance.
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03/22/09, 07:46 AM
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lol yep i meant NAIS  but why do they have to have my name in order for me to sell some goats!!
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03/22/09, 07:59 AM
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You should have waited for the first week in April thats when most ofthe Easter sales are ..they get better prices then.
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03/22/09, 08:15 AM
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MN has required a scrapie tag (or tattoo and reg papers) for any goat sold at auction since at least 2004. It's more of a sheep disease but goats can get it too. The gov't is interested in tracking and eliminating it since it is one of the causes of mad cow disease.
If you get your tags directly from the state, you are the official recordkeeper and the state will have to talk to you if one of your sold animals comes up positive for scrapie.
As a side note, someone dumped a Pygmy doe with a scrapie tag on my land last fall. The state was able to trace back the tag, but could not tell me who the last owner- or any owner- was, or contact any previous owners with my contact info. They can only act on that info in case of an actual scrapie diagnosis, and not in any other way.
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03/22/09, 08:42 AM
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You can usually get the tags for free from your state's Veterinary office.
They will give you a "premise" number, and supply the tags and applicator.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_hea...d-tag-co.shtml
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03/22/09, 08:57 AM
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This is what we did. They sent them free and they got here pretty quick. No real issue.
Well we put tags in the babies born a few weeks ago. They have the elf ears.
What a pain. Getting the tag in that tiny ear. But they didn't seem to care after a few minutes. No blood or anything. So it's not too bad.
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03/22/09, 10:33 AM
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i have to say, once at my county fair when i had pygmys they requried scrapie tags, so we taged our girls, then we went to state fair and people told us we "runind" our animal...sorry just thought id share my storry
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03/22/09, 10:35 AM
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ahh i see i'll have to get them when i head back down to little rock then Thanks for the info, i researched it some this morning when i got up. Seems like a good precaution to me.
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03/22/09, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by arkansastwist
We took our billy goat Billy to the auction today. He just got to mean for me to handle right now with my arm fractured. That and we wanted to phase out the pygmy's as we are leaning towards Lamanchas. I was in shock...he only brought 27 dollars!! The reason? LOL The owner told me he was too FAT!! Dang i must be over feeding my babies. Saying that, the only Lamancha at the auction was with a doe kid.. you'll never guess what they brought!!! 230$ yes you read right, her udder wasn't that good, and the doe kid had supernumary (extra teet)
ALSO we learned that, starting April 1, you can not sale goat or sheep at the auction without a government scrapies tag. What in the heck!! So now i have to call and get this tag number for all my goats??? If you bring goats or sheep to auction without the tag, they add 1.50 a head.
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In GA pygmy goats also are almost free. Dairy goats at auction bring much less than meat goats. $230!!!! for a LaMancha doeling... AT AUCTION... WOW.
Few breeders take milk goats to auction because of the very low prices. Milk-goat buyers don't go to auction, so there is no demand to push up the price.
Wondering how they'll put scrapies tags on gopher-eared LaMancha. hehe
Paul
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03/22/09, 08:28 PM
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I have Scrapies tags but hardly use them.
Our auction house said we don't need to tag going through them.
Taking directly to slaughter house, you do not need them.
And selling to people, I tattoo the number in their ears so no tags are sticking out.
The only time I needed them were when goat brokers were buying them from me to raise out for meat on thier own property.
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03/23/09, 10:48 AM
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Many states will allow you to register with a scrapies number and then use the registration number of the goat (tattooed in ear of course) instead of the tags.
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03/23/09, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaManchaPaul
Wondering how they'll put scrapies tags on gopher-eared LaMancha. hehe |
Paul
We had to tattoo our scrapies number in the tail of the first LaMancha we bought and have it listed on her registration number because of a pin in the rear guy on the fair board here. Talk about a difficult thing to do, putting it in her little bitty tail web!
Sarah
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