Another wormer question

SoINgirl · #1 03/03/09, 06:31 AM

I tried to do a search but couldn't quite find the answers I needed. I have the liquid safeguard wormer for goats. It says not to slaughter until 6 days and not to use in lactating goats. If you can slaughter after 6 days why can you not use the milk after 6 days or maybe longer?

waygr00vy · #2 03/03/09, 06:38 AM

I can't answer your question exactly but I know safeguard is pretty much ineffective as a dewormer in most of the US. Have you been using it with good results?

stanb999 · #3 03/03/09, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SoINgirl

I tried to do a search but couldn't quite find the answers I needed. I have the liquid safeguard wormer for goats. It says not to slaughter until 6 days and not to use in lactating goats. If you can slaughter after 6 days why can you not use the milk after 6 days or maybe longer?

They use a no exposure rule. So it could take a very long time till none comes out in the milk. See generally chemicals get stored in the fat and organ meats of the animal and most folks eat the meat so it is reasonable to expect the meat to clear faster than the fat.

I use Ivomec and make sure to feed the milk to the pig for the first few days. I figure it wont hurt the piggie. She gets wormed with Ivomec...
Then we drink it. Ivomec is a wormer used on people in third world countries to suppress parasites. So i figure wrongly or rightly that it will be OK. But our milk is for family use only.

Hope this helps.

SoINgirl · #4 03/03/09, 09:24 AM

No I haven't used it, when we got the goats they said that they probally needed to be wormed so that is what I was able to find around here and picked it up. After doing a bit of reading on here I found out about Ivomec. I have seen ivomec for sheep in a big jug for $$ but that would last me forever and I am concerned about the shelf life for something like that. I have about 12 sheep and 2 does and 2 kids. Is the ivomec that you all use labeled for sheep, goats or cows? I didn't look in the cow section. It is all very confusing when you can use stuff labeled for one animal on a different animal and it's not listed on the label.

stanb999 · #5 03/03/09, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SoINgirl

No I haven't used it, when we got the goats they said that they probally needed to be wormed so that is what I was able to find around here and picked it up. After doing a bit of reading on here I found out about Ivomec. I have seen ivomec for sheep in a big jug for $$ but that would last me forever and I am concerned about the shelf life for something like that. I have about 12 sheep and 2 does and 2 kids. Is the ivomec that you all use labeled for sheep, goats or cows? I didn't look in the cow section. It is all very confusing when you can use stuff labeled for one animal on a different animal and it's not listed on the label.

Nope, It is an "Off Label Use". I use the cattle pour on. I get the bottle they have for calves. It has a smaller top and comes in a smaller bottle.

The issue of wormers have been beaten to death. The right ones, the wrong ones, ect. I've come to believe that it really depends on where you live. The type of husbandry you do. The numbers of animals you keep.

Lots of variables. For instance I use Ivomec as a pour on because,
I keep few goats on large pastures, they are on one in warm months and the other in winter months. When moving from one to the other they are wormed.
We get hard frosts and deep freezes. The other thing is we generally have more issues with barn diseases (mites and lice) than internal worms.

So, once again research. Your needs will probably be very different than mine. So the Ivomec may not work at all or maybe it will be fine.