Help!!!how Long Does The Doe Have Colostrum???

[cayenne47]

HAD anotther baby just now
mama doesnt seem to want anything to do with her. But her aunt just had a baby maybe 36 hours ago. Does she still have colostrum we could give to the newborn. PS New mama doesnt seem to have any milk at all.

[pookshollow]

I believe it's about 3-4 days, so the other doe should still have some. Keep working on the mother, though, if you can - the antibodies are specific to their kid. The other doe's colostrum is better than none, of course.

Good luck!

[cayenne47]

ok WE TRIED milking colostrum from mama.SHes a FF boer. got about 3 drops from teeny tiny teats. Other mama is a boer too. Got nothing, of course she already has a baby eating all she makes. New mama has no milk.
and shes kicking the baby away, (ive got them in a large dog crate together)I do have a goat i can milk to feed but shes way past the colostrum stage.
Never had one rejuected before...most of my moms arre GOOD girls.
sorry about typos..running in and out.

[moonspinner]

Obviously your kid needs colostrum now. There are powdered mixes available at feed stores and also a homemade recipe for it, though can't compare to mom's.
What are you feeding your lactating does? It's unusual that both mothers wouldn't have much milk.

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Unless a replacement colostrum has Ieg levels written on the package, and if they contained these actual antibodies they would state it, it is better to just put them on whole milk than to use replacements or concotions made up at home that would never been fed to a small ruminant if you knew the mechanics of how their tummy works.

The first 12 hours of colostrum is of course the best....from 12 to 24 it's transitional milk, but it still has colostrum. It is doubt ful that a doe who kidded 36 hours has colostrum left in her milk, certainly not any valuable colostrum unless her kids have only been nursing one side and you have no milked it out.

After 12 hours, colostrum feeding is a waste of time, your better off using warm milk and a baby glycerin supository to make sure all the meconium (first tarry black poop is out of them). Or put a few drops of kero into each milk bottle for awhile. Vicki

[cayenne47]

oK I RAN THE 40 MILES into town and got colostrum replacer. Gramma goat had no colostrum left in her milk...and have you ever tried to milk a boer??? LOL. Teeny tiny teats. Baby ate about 4 oz and pooped her merconium. Shes up and running, so to speak.
I feed all my mamas free choice alfalfa and cob in the mornings. SO its not a question of nutrition. This new mama had an infection and she was on antibiotics for the last 2 weeks. I'm thinking that had something to do with no milk? She kicked the baby away and ran from it...we tried 3 times to get anything out of her at all with no luck. Shes out there eating, passed her afterbirth and not missing this baby at all.
When shes had a chance to rest, (and me,lol) I will introduce you to Fox Hollow's Casseopia

[jBlaze]

Try calling around Look throught DuhGoatMan website. I think Longmans Nubians is right there!
I have never had to use store colustrum, wish you were closer, I have frozen.
Look here: http://user.cavenet.com/longman/
and: http://duhgoatman.tripod.com/OR-J-Z.htm Or: http://duhgoatman.tripod.com/or-m-z.htm

Sure hope your baby does ok!

[southerngurl]

What about plasma? My understanding was you can draw blood from a goat and let it separate in the fridge and feed the plasma, has the same antibodies? Kinda far fetched, but just an idea.

[cayenne47]

Thanks jBlaze. The first one i called was betty longman...shes not very far from me..but they wont have goats freshening til next month. Believe me,l called everyone i know and everyone they knew with goats..my girls are just early.

Shes running around the front room with my shepherd cleaning up anything she drops LOLOL.

[jBlaze]

I would have thought that she would have frozen. Glad baby is doing good, hope that continues.

[cayenne47]

[dragonchick]

Awwww shes so cute and healthy looking. I love it when you get pictures of the babies smiling.

[jBlaze]

what a cutie!

[moonspinner]

The kid is adorable!

[moonspinner]

She's adorable!
Sorry, I didn't realize not all colostrum replacers didn't have those antibodies. The one I used did and I wrongly assumed others did. That's why I love this forum.

[Backfourty,MI.]

What a little cutie, Good luck with her. She sure looks happy & comfy up on the couch.

[cayenne47]

[dragonchick]

Oh how cute. Such a good doggie mama/daddy.

[Backfourty,MI.]

That is so sweet, the doeling trying to nurse & the dog just letting her try, or maybe the dog is trying to figure out what that little goats trying to do!

[LaManchaPaul]

Cuter than cute! Thanks.
Paul