To band or not to band, pics

[Cannon_Farms]

I bought this little buckling for my daughter to make a show wether for him, shes interested but not really sirous about showing and is fine if I just find her another, however he could add allot to the herd as a sire or put her on the map, and if I really thought it would capure her attention long enough there wouldnt be a question in what to do but its a fight just to get her to work with him. I just had to castrate him and have a big pet that I can do nothing but feed.
I think he could do allot for the herd even though hes not registered I do believe he would throw me some nice kids to show in the percentage class.
Mick is great, but I really cant use him forever and will get another buck but always keep mick hes such a ham.

I have skipper labled in the first picture, hes the only brown head white body kid I have here.



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[Cannon_Farms]

[Minelson]

I don't know...but he sure is cute!! I love all the pictures...the Donk is a riot! And Mick looks like he is looking for some lovin!! LOL

[BethW]

LOL! I'm just giggling away over here. Mick has the same look as all those fraternity boys during my college days of 20 years ago. Hilarious!

MEN.

[Backfourty,MI.]

If you DD really doesn't seem to care then I would do what you think is best for you & your family since you'll be the one feeding them & probly doing most the care?

Mick, sure is a cutie though, Love the picture of him in the #2 post.

[Cannon_Farms]

All most all the girls are bred for late march babies, except the one that looks like shes going to go, shes just old and that way aparently from what the owner said, I had to take her to get her daughter whom I liked.
Mick is starting to go back in rutt and it figures I just have started getting weight back on him

[LaManchaPaul]

Cannon, Mick is sooooo funny, but that donkey takes the cake!!!
Paul

[Cannon_Farms]

He can be yours Paul great donk but getting a bit pudgy on hay and grain here and I dont have a way of seperating him.

[LaManchaPaul]

Thanks. Bear does the work needed around here so another guard wouldn't help. DONK IS a ham. I saw the ----- shots before I realized that you had fotobucket pix and was laughing mine offfffff at Donk's backside and Mick's invitation. Then, saw the link with Donk and fell out! Looks like he has great personality.

Your goats are beautiful. Paul

[Cannon_Farms]

Thank you, the donk is weird, sometimes hell let me pet him, other times he wont let me within 15 feet of him, normally I can only pet him through the fence. I dont know what happend to him but he has some trust issues, he was fine until I wormed and vaccinated him. hes pretty neat though, keeps me thinking since all my years with horses absoulty do me no good with him.

[DQ]

"I think he could do allot for the herd even though hes not registered I do believe he would throw me some nice kids to show in the percentage class."

I'm just learning a bit about showing but I was told that in order to get a doe registered as a percentage the sire must be registered. I was told that you can take an unregistered doe and breed her to a full blood buck and get 50% registerable doeling but if you take a full blood doe and breed to an unregistered buck you can't register the doelings. ??????? if thats not the case I guess I was told wrong, but if it is that might influence your decision.

[Rockytopsis]

Originally Posted by DQ

I was told that in order to get a doe registered as a percentage the sire must be registered. I was told that you can take an unregistered doe and breed her to a full blood buck and get 50% registerable doeling but if you take a full blood doe and breed to an unregistered buck you can't register the doelings.

This is correct info.
The following is from ABGA's website

2. AMERICAN BOER GOATS - Must originate from the cross breeding of FULL BLOOD BOER BUCK or AMERICAN PUREBRED BOER BUCKS (see d. and e. below) with any other breed of goat.
a. 1/2 Part-bred American Boer Goats-Does
Sire is an ABGA registered Full blood or American Purebred Boer goat and the dam is undecided, of unknown ancestry or of another breed.
b. 3/4 Part-bred American Boer Goats Does
Sire is an ABGA registered Full blood or American Purebred Boer goat and the dam is an ABGA registered ½ Part-bred American Boer goat.
c. 7/8 Part-bred American Boer Goats - Does
Sire is an ABGA registered Full blood or American Purebred Boer goat and the dam is an ABGA registered 3/4 Part-bred American Boer goat.
d. American Purebred Boer Goat Does (15/16 or higher Boer goat blood)
Sire is an ABGA registered Full blood or American Purebred Boer goat and the darn is an ABGA registered
7/8 Part-bred American Boer goat. DOES IN THIS CATEGORY (15/16 OR HIGHER BOER GOAT BLOOD) BECOME ELIGIBLE TO BE SHOWN IN THE SAME CLASSES AS FULL BLOOD BOER GOATS.
e. American Purebred Boer Goat Bucks (31/32 or higher Boer goat blood)
Sire is an ABGA registered Full blood or American Purebred Boer Goat and the darn is an ABGA registered
American Purebred Boer (15/16 or higher blood). BUCKS IN THIS CATEGORY (31/32 OR HIGHER) ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE SHOWN IN THE SAME CLASSES AS FULL BLOOD BOER GOATS. ONLY FULL BLOOD OR AMERICAN PUREBRED BOER GOAT BUCKS (31/32 OR HIGHER) SHALL BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING PERCENTAGE IN SUBSEQUENT GENERATIONS.
f. Bucks of 15/16 or less Boer blood will not be eligible for registration. For these animals 1/2,3/4,7/8 or 15/16 Boer blood are eligible for a 'Record of Pedigree" certificate. This 'Record of Pedigree" will be issued after the proper documentation has been submitted with the buck's herd prefix, herd name and a three generation history.

[Cannon_Farms]

I may not can use his offsprings directly but Mick is registered, there for I could breed Mick to any girls Skipper throws and go after the percentage, I had planned on showing both in percentage and full blooded shows. It would make them a high percetage but only a 50% on paper.
Granted its going to take time, Im not out to show in a hurry i dont have the funds, plus the original goat was to have meat goats and I believe Skipper would throw us some good kids for that purpose if nothing else.
IM going out with the camera, Ill see if I can pose him so that you can see how broad and strait he is.

[Rockytopsis]

Cannon, yes you can do that, breed his offspring does to your FB and yes the doelings from that breeding would only be on paper 50%.

I have done the same thing myself and even though some of my does are 3/4 or higher % boer they are only registered as 50%.

This doe is 50% on paper but 3/4 Boer 1/4 nubian

this doe is Boer/Alpine

this doe is 3/4 Boer 1/4 Nubian and she was bred back to a FB boer.



Your Mick is very handsome and knows how to ham it up for photos. lol

[Cannon_Farms]

It seems those that i talk to prefer to show the percentage as the breed itself has suffered from an over popular boost so you see healthier animals in general when you have a percentage. The only reason I am looking to add a full blood boer is so I can show possibly, my daughter would only show wethers so its not a huge deal if they are % and probably better for her.
I seen this guys sire and man he was a massive buck, I though mick was massive but this guy if I had been a city slicker i would have thought he was a hog!

[Rockytopsis]

LOL you know I have seen some Boer bucks so huge I would not let near my girls for fear of loosing them and the kids. As long as the kids are 40 to 60 pounds when they go to market I am happy.

[Cannon_Farms]

Ill have to check out your site there Rocky.
heres a ham shot of mick and some better ones of skipper, its so hard to get them seperated as every one wants lovin.



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[Rockytopsis]

I will have to get busy and update my site as a lot of the goats there have been sold. So much to do and so little time.
Mick looks like he is enjoying a good back scratch, I see nothing wrong with your little one. Hope he grows well for you.