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02/15/09, 08:21 AM
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Help!! Kid unable to walk this morning very sickley
To reintroduce what's going on this is what i wrote yesterday:
He was one of triplets. Momma rejected him quite violently. I have him in my house now. My husband and i milked her for the first couple days she hates to be milked so it's quite the chore. I then put him on sav a kid milk replacer. About three days ago he started to get diarrhea pretty bad. I had him on 1/3 cup every 4 hours. Talked to a local person they told me to dilute the replacer and give less. Long story short he's lost weight. He is so much skinner then his sisters. I can easily feel his ribs. He weighs about 2 pounds. He's very active though. I have him currently on 1/3 cup replacer every 6 hours and 1/4 cup of electrolyte replacer every 12 hours. First time raising a kid. I'm desperate for help!!!
This morning I read the replys and zoomed to my local store to buy vitamin d milk. When i got back and went downstairs my little Cupid is unable to walk and is crying. I got him to drink 1/2 a cup of warm milk. Is there anything else i can do for him? Is it to late? Should I let him drink more if he wants more? He's very weak he did suckle just had to stop a few times. Help!!!!
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02/15/09, 08:32 AM
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Mom may have rejected him for a reason. Have you given him anything to stop the diarrhea? I use Kaopectate.
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02/15/09, 08:37 AM
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what is his temp
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02/15/09, 08:52 AM
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If his temp is low, he needs to be warmed up. Try putting some towels in the dryer to heat them and wrapping him in them. Poor baby 
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02/15/09, 09:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockytopsis
Mom may have rejected him for a reason. Have you given him anything to stop the diarrhea? I use Kaopectate.
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how much kaopectate should i give her?
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02/15/09, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prairiedog
what is his temp
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his temp is 97.9.
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02/15/09, 09:09 AM
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Yikes. Get those towels heating up. Better yet, get out a heating pad. He needs to be warmed up ASAP. Normal temp is 102-104°.
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02/15/09, 09:19 AM
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His temp is very low. Get him warmed up immediately (warm towels fresh from dryer or heating pad). The crying and lack of movement are probably a result of the low temp and the strain on his little body from the milk replacer. Let him drink whatever he can of the whole milk, as often as he can right now until you get him stablized. The diarrhea should stop now that you've gotten him off the milk replacer, I wouldn't give him kaopectate at this age.
Do you have him under a heat lamp? At this size and with no siblings in with him, he won't be able to generate alot of body heat on his own, so will need a heat source.
Good luck and please give us updates (wrap him in his warm towel and bring him up to the computer if need be!).
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02/15/09, 09:41 AM
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He has to be warm before you give him any thing by mouth. If you want you can give him warm sub-q injections. Get him warm though and vit b would not hurt either
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02/15/09, 10:09 AM
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Yes he needs to be warmed up! Yes only give him milk if he is warmed properly. He needs to be under a heat lamp--but dont fry him! make sure the lamp is not too close. He should not be panting. low temp could be his biggest problem and everything could clear up just from getting his temp regulated and feeding him the whole milk. Also give him probios and vit b.
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02/15/09, 10:11 AM
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Pedialyte wouldnt hurt either, after he is warmed up. That will give him electrolytes--he is obviously all out of balance. Start with heat, then pedialyte, then warm milk and probios, and vit b. at least thats what I would do....
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02/15/09, 10:19 AM
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Thanks so much for everyone's advice. He's all warmed up and active again  Starting to feed him more milk. Snuggled watching t.v. with him. I'll keep updating. Thanks again. This forum has been a blessing.
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02/15/09, 03:52 PM
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I'm pulling for you guys!
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02/15/09, 04:10 PM
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Come on, little guy!
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02/15/09, 08:38 PM
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Do not feed milk until you get him warmed up. Milk in a cold baby is a death sentance. You can mix equal amounts of coffee, karo, whisky or just coffee ad karo if you don't have whisky.
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02/15/09, 09:09 PM
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It's ten at night and he's still got diarrhea. I've been feeding him as much as he wants of whole milk. He usually will take around 1/3 cup but the first time i let him drink as much as he wanted he drank 12 oz then had a huge nap. He grinds his teeth. The poor thing is just so skinny. He wants to play but tires fast. Hoping tonight is a good night.
Last edited by goat newbee; 02/16/09 at 06:11 AM.
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02/15/09, 09:25 PM
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I would say thats the problem, his tummy is too full. Try giving him some baking soda in a little water to settle his tummy. Baby goats shouldn't get more than 8 ounces at a time. Since hes cold he can not digest it either. It will turn toxic in his tummy. Check his temp before each feeding and keep him warm. If he gets cold warm himup and keep him warm.
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02/16/09, 08:56 AM
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Exactly how old is this kid and is it a standard size or mini? He's abruptly changed diets twice so I would not expect the scouring to abate yet. Also, too much milk at one time. He should be fed smaller amounts more often, but as was said, he needs to be warmed first or he cannot process his food. I hope this is just a dietary problem and not illness.
Moms usually have a good sense about rejecting kids.
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02/16/09, 01:49 PM
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What i left out was he was born cleaned off and found in the next stall. I had a baby monitor on to hear if she went into labor. I saw her have the last one. Then i heard a cry from another stall. Not sure how that all happened but he was in with my wether. I put him back with mom and i don't know if it was the smell or she didn't remember giving birth to him or what. I rubbed some of the afterbirth on him hoping that might help. Nope she grabbed him by the ears and smashed him against the wall. Then pulled at his neck and bit him. That's when i said that's it he's coming in with me. Today he is doing very well. His stool is no longer diarrhea but not pellets. And it's gray in color hoping this is normal. Never seen him jump and play so much. Thank you everyone so very much for your words of encouragement and your knowledge!
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02/16/09, 02:03 PM
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You can just put the smallest pinch of baking soda in his milk, go get some Probios, give him small pea size amounts after every bottle. Please do not put anything in his mouth but warm milk, no electrolytes, no water no nothing.
I agree all this change has done every bit of acid he has in his tummy to curd the milk is gone. If you have some yogurt culture, kefir or rennet add some right before he drinks the milk, to the milk, to help him set the milk into a curd. Why also you want to be very careful feeding too much baking soda to infants.
The Probios is what I use, each kid gets their vitamin E capsule contents, then a small amount of probios, then their colostrum. Then once a day a lima bean size amount of probios. In nursing mom they would be getting bacteria from their enviornment via the dirty teat. Vicki
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