What do you think of this Nubian Buck ?

[farmerjane]

Being fairly new to breeding goats, I was wondering other people oppinions on this Nubian goat Buck ? What about price value ?





Thank you

[farmerjane]

oh and WHAT color is that ?

[DQ]

cool coloring! I like his chest, over all I think his conformation could use much improvement. short steep rump, downhill from back to front, ears are too short, its hard to tell through the gaurd hair but he strikes me as being mutton withered, I think its the way his neck comes into his shoulder, but that could be from all that hair. doesnt' look real dairy to me. what does he look like from the back? what do you want to use him for?

I'll be interested to see others comments, and maybe someone can come along with a more intelligent and detailed analysis. I enjoy learning!

[cathleenc]

cool spots! short ears.

[susanne]

is he mixed with boer or other meat goat? doesn't look very dairy to me.
if you like spots, then he is nice. only spots don't put it in the milk pail
you want him for meat? he might be the right buck for you.
can't say anything about price value as you don't mentioning how much he will be.
for me he would just be meat price. how much is that in your area?

[farmerjane]

He is supposed to be purebred ? Does anybody have a pic of Nubain buck they would like to share ? My girls are dairy, but the wethers are going to be going to market ? Maybe he would be an ok choice ?

[susanne]

here are some of my boys
http://www.ain-ash-shams.net/bucks.htm
on the bottom of the reference page, there are two more that were sold last year
http://www.ain-ash-shams.net/referenceanimals.htm

[susanne]

just saw you are in canada. maybe the standarts are different then here???

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Not a soul can tell you looking at a buck in winter gear like that and just out of rut his value as a breeding buck on your place, other than if yes he will breed your does and they will come into milk. It's what registration is for, it answers all these questions with information on progeny and his ancestry.

I don't care for his coloring but other than that he is very typical of a heavily used older buck, this time of year not sure even my 90 buck would appraise that high, he has long hair, he is thinner from breeding 53 does so far and has 2 more to go.

Without this bucks paperwork or barn records from his farm to go on, he has 2 ears, 4 legs, hopefully two testicles and two teats, good feet and legs and tests negative for CAE and there isn't CL in that heinz 57 managerie he is breeding in the photo

I have seen and purchased some spectacular pedigrees out of situations like your photo, that unless you matches tattoo with paperwork nobody would believe, until taken home, fed up, shaved...he is who he is. Even bred to awful, if you are impressed with this bucks kids over their dams, go for it. Health first of course. Vicki

[farmerjane]

I see, well yes he is rather ummmm. . . meaty, LOL . I have to say I am guilty of liking the color

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

I am not sure where you are seeing meaty. He has really nice length of bone, look how long his thigh and cannon bone is, even his neck. He has very good length of body. Do you know how old he is? Vicki

[farmerjane]

He looks alot meatier than Susannes goats, based on pictures. He is 3 yrs old, and yes he is in with quite the variety of goats. He has been the only even slightly suitable goat withen an hours drive of me. So you think he is ok , they want $350 for him and I have no idea what his value would be.

[arkansastwist]

i don't know much about grades of goats, but he'd sure make some pretty babies

[jBlaze]

What I see is a very pretty buck, but I think posty legs and face is wide, and short, and ears should be longer for nubbie. pretty though. Herd looks very mixed breed to me, so who knows.

[sungirl]

Farmerjane, you have a pm

Patty.

[bcr495]

I like his color also, but his body shape doesn't look good to me. It could be the angle of the pictures thou. He reminds me of the buck I used this year.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7316/img9725pd6.jpg
later
Alex

[susanne]

here is a winter picture from one of my bucks. although with winter coat, he still looks dairy. he is two years old in the picture.

[Minelson]

Susan your bucks look HUGE to me! I'm so used to looking at my mini's I guess lol! Nice looking goats you have

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

I think you can see that this black buck also stands posty when hairy and cold, with his rump down. He doesn't have a longer body than the spotted buck or a longer neck, he isn't fuller at the nostrils, nor between the eyes although the black buck does have longer ears they are not correct bell shaped ears like the spotted buck has. The spotted buck does grant to the black buck beautiful withers and how his shoulders fit into his body. The spotted buck also has a nicer shape to his brisket with more extension forward like you would expect in a 3 year old where the black bucks goes up, not forward, perhaps he is younger. The spotted buck is also much straighter in the foreleg, especially down near the pastern at the bottom of the cannon bone. The black bucks cannon bone is longer and more appropriate in length compared to the leg bone, but he also doesn't have any better topline or length of body than the spotted buck.

On just body.... because width follows width, from his narrow nose which goes to between his eyes and his brisket and likely his escutheon, I would take the spotted buck...on pedigree I would take the black buck...I think this shows you how purchasing anything to improve your herd from what the buck looks like, alone...is futile. You have to see his pedigree and what he produces or you are spitting into the wind.

This buck may also never throw you one spotted kid even being this pretty color...what I dont' like about his coloring is the frosted roan, the lines he has on his rump down and also on his shoulders down, in the showring would make a really nice doe look shorter not as smoothly blended as she might be, and you spend alot of time fitting a goat like this...or dyeing them Vicki

[southerngurl]

Are his (the spotted buck) pasterns weak in the back?