Lost another one today

[sadie6447]

I am wondering the nanny was butted and threw her into labor. I did have the clymedia, however I have treated for that. She had a boy and it did have all the hair on it. The strange thing is that she has no bag, yet if the baby was early it is only a week or so. I am thinking the baby got cold and died. It happened about 30 min. before I got home from work I am guessing. Her blood is bright red more like she was cut than afterbirth. That is why I am wondering If mabe she was butted real hard. I will get some pics and see what you all think.

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Who diagnosed you had clamydia on your place, and how did you treat it? It's not a matter of treatment it is prolonged through the end of all pregnancies on the farm, so you should still be treating it. Abortions of full formed kids several weeks to 50 days early is the common thread of clamydia or mycoplasma on a farm.

Some bright red blood is normal after delivery, its only if it's an alarming amount and usually there is nothing to do anyway as a doe bleeds out.

You say lost another one today....if this is your second abortion, can you afford to take the kid and placenta in for testing? If not I would put the whole herd back onto tetracycline, giving injections to the buck who bred these does, and to does who are left to kid, and everyone including them onto feed through crumbles until spring. Vicki

[sadie6447]

He looks a little small i dont know. I believe this is a first kidding for this doe

I have been putting crumbles into thier food until last friday. Guess I will start again. I just thought since I have some nasty does that one had butted her. wishful thinking maybe Also why does she not have a bag yet you could not even tell she was prego??

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

He is at least 3 weeks premature, is my guess. He has no body fat which is made in the last 50 days. Not alot goes on the last 3 weeks other than body fat and lung maturation, but it also makes all the difference in the doe coming into milk. If the pregnancy is term than with the ending of the pregnancy in utero of this kid, than she still didn't have the homrones to come into milk. Does can have cloudbursts, delivering buckets of amniotic fluid with no kids seen anymore from absorption, with no milk period, with no maturation of the udder.

Did she pass the placenta? Pretty typical of them not to, you can give calcium and oxytocin if the cervic is still open, lutelyse if it is not. Having injectable calcium around for the next deliveries and giving it will help the does clean better, 1/4 cc of oxytocin after they have started delivering kids will help also...even givning 1/4 cc every 2 or 3 hours after the births to make the does clean.

Kids born during abortion storms are very typically perfect like your kid is, some of the pregnancies end without immediate abortion, but kids passed later on closer to term.

I would definetly start back on systemic tetracycline shots for the rest of the does who are bred, and the buck, then the whole herd on crumbles (we have the dosages up on goatkeeping 101 at dairygoatinfo.com) until spring. Hopefully you didn't outside breed to any does after these two were bred. Vicki

[sadie6447]

I am definately starting back up tomarrow. This worries me because I have a doe that is huge. No bag yet either. If she gets much bigger she will literely be wadaling when she walks. I have one bagged up for a month now and one that started her bag about a month ago but is not full yet. Now I am getting nervious because I figured she was bred but you could not tell. I thought mabe a couple to three months not this far. You could not tell at all. I have several that I know are bred just dont know when since herd sire stays in all year. Now this is making me think the rest are closer than I thought.