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11/20/08, 01:18 PM
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My husband says no dogs, donkeys, or llamas..
I'd love to hear your suggestions. My husband says no more animals until we can afford to get a backhoe first (I feel like if I don't do something more to protect them I might not have any animals here soon.)
We have some wonderful dairy goats, chickens, Angora rabbits, and a couple horses. All go into no climb fence at night with shelter.
The coyotes (and there are few dogs running with them) here are REALLY BAD. Just last night they woke me up again (they were out near my livestock but everyone is ok..This time.) You can hear them here:
http://www.bricoreandfamily.blogspot.com/
I am thinking of using lights (motion), hot wire, and my gun but I don't know if that's going to be enough at this point.
Any suggestions?
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11/20/08, 01:53 PM
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A properly built electric fence will keep them out.
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11/20/08, 01:55 PM
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Yikes! The audio (on your blog) of the coyotes calling is startling.
What kind of shelter do you have for your animals? Can it be enclosed to lock them up at night?
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11/20/08, 02:23 PM
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poison a few chickens and lay out. Just lock your own dogs up.
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11/20/08, 02:41 PM
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A properly built electric fence will keep them out.
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We are going to add some. It's hard because we live on a very step hill but we are going to see what we can do.
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11/20/08, 02:41 PM
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Sell your husband, and use the backhoe money to get more goats, and of course a lgd.
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11/20/08, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
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Yikes! The audio (on your blog) of the coyotes calling is startling.
What kind of shelter do you have for your animals? Can it be enclosed to lock them up at night?
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That clip was when one of the groups of them already moved on too.
Right now they are in Hoop housing with no climb fence all around them.
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11/20/08, 02:44 PM
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poison a few chickens and lay out. Just lock your own dogs up.
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My poor chickens. I have been worried about them getting ate by them not making them into dinner..lol
I never thought about that though. If, we had to do that what would you use?
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11/20/08, 02:46 PM
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Sell your husband, and use the backhoe money to get more goats, and of course a lgd.
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I am still laughing about that one...lol...
Thank-you,
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11/20/08, 03:02 PM
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How important is the livestock to your DH? I'm surrounded by forest and lots of big predators, and would NEVER be without my pair of Great Pyrenees dogs! For my peace of mind, and the safety of my goats & chickens, it is worth the little extra expense to feed and care for the LGDs.
Just sayin'.
Good luck, and I hope you can get something worked out. I can truly understand how frightened you must be for your goats & other livestock.
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11/20/08, 03:46 PM
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Ok he said no donkeys......How bout a mule? That is what I use!!
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11/20/08, 04:08 PM
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[QUOTE=Bricore;3451195]My poor chickens. I have been worried about them getting ate by them not making them into dinner..lol
I never thought about that though. If, we had to do that what would you use?
about dark cut the head off(fresh blood smell) use an old chicken or if one dies, inject 4-6 ounces antifreeze into the body cavity.
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I don't advocate poison for anything. It's too indiscriminate. You don't know what's going to eat that chicken after the coyote has dragged it off somewhere and left it (or died). Or what's going to eat the poisoned coyote.
Make your presence more known to the coyotes. Enjoy evenings out by the fence with a shotgun and a flashlight and a hot cup of cocoa. Have your husband, the backhoe fan, go out and urinate all around the fenced enclosure (or do it yourself). And a LGD is never a bad idea, but you'll need several to contend with any size pack.
I moved my animals up closer to the house now, both to reduce risk from animal and human predators. I was worried about the smell initially, but it just inspires me to get out there and clean out stalls and coops like I ought to have been in the first place.
Got no advice for you regarding the husband and the backhoe. That's between you and him.
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Shoot some of the yotes' and leave their bodies where you don't want them. No pack will stick around if it means they might get shot. That said if they are hungery and need to eat, they won't give a hoot about it.
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Have all the critters sleep in the basement at night...see if that will help your hubby change his mind 
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My DH is a wise, wise man. He has never said "No dogs, donkeys or llamas". Good thing too, since we have 2 dogs, 1 donkey and 2 llamas in residence at the farm 
Seriously, though. If you are going to keep livestock where predators are abundant, you simply MUST have a guardian animal to protect them. We had a large flock of sheep for several years, but ended up getting rid of them because we were loosing so many to coyotes. The chickens stay closer to the house and horse and hog pens, so I haven't lost too many of those to coyotes. Can you run pigs with your chickens and goats? I have never seen a coyote that will bother a pen that has multiple hogs in it.
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11/20/08, 05:56 PM
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The only way I would feel totally comfortable in your situation is to build a small shed or barn to hold the animals overnight and put them in there by dark.
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11/20/08, 06:26 PM
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We have coyotes like that here--I hear them every night, sometimes really close.
I have never had one instance of them bothering any of the goats in the past almost 4 years. Our problem has been wild dogs, which we cull when we can.
Here coyotes aren't a big deal-I don't even mind hearing them. I don't know about other places and why they don't bother anything here.
Have any of you ever had a coyote kill/go after your goats? Some people I know are terrified of them, why I don't know, unless our coyotes are weird.
My fil told of a horrid way he used to "catch" them, but I don't even want to repeat it for fear some sicko would do it.
Last edited by TennesseeMama23; 11/20/08 at 06:30 PM.
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11/20/08, 06:51 PM
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Idea Buy your husband a shovel and go get you a guard animal:banana02:
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11/20/08, 09:47 PM
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Have any of you ever had a coyote kill/go after your goats?
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Ihave seen them be so brazen as to come and eat a calf as the cow was trying to give birth! Yes if they get hungry they will take a goat. My neighbor has lost about 3 kids within the last year. He now has a LGD, and has lost zero since having her - she started working by 6 mos old and she is doing incredibly well at her job. She guards my very small herd here as well.
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