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Old 10/30/08, 06:08 PM
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What do you think about my doe?

She's just been dried off in this pic and she's underweight, but from what you CAN tell what do you and don't you like about her?

What do you think about my doe? - Goats

And here's her udder from when she freshened. She's a fourth freshener by the way.

What do you think about my doe? - Goats

Please be honest. I want to be able to improve on her with my next buck.
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Old 10/30/08, 06:58 PM
 
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HI Twilite,
I am just learning (the hard way, mostly) about goats but I love her color!
The side view - I like her topline and her back legs look strong and have a nice angle. She has a nice balance to her body length and while her front legs don't show up quite as well as her back legs they seem to be okay.
I like the width between her back legs in the second photo. She does not seem off balance with her udder so full. Since I am really just learning I cannot put my finger on what I don't like about her udder attachment but it could just be the picture.
Like you I will be interested in what others have to say about your doe.
She is very pretty though - I wouldn't be ashamed to own her!

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Old 10/30/08, 07:00 PM
 
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I wish my goats had that nice of an udder and teats :P My girls have little teats as they are mini sized but my full sized Nubian is hopefully expecting and I hope her udder turns out as nice as your does!
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Old 10/30/08, 08:48 PM
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If this were my doe (and I've got a few like this one) I would be looking for a buck to improve body capacity, front end assembly, and rump width.

The lack of body capacity/depth really pops out on this four year old doe. She should be much, much deeper in the body at four years. Dairy goats should be wedge-shaped, with a line slanting down from a deep chest to a deeper foreudder & belly.

The rump width is a linear trait that *usually* corralates with overall width. This doe has a somewhat narrow rump that goes along with her tubular body. She probably walks funny with a full udder, with her narrow rump and her wide udder arch.

Front end assembly-she's shallow in the chest. It looks like her elbow is about even with her chest floor. The chest floor should be well below the elbow. She has no brisket either. Her forelegs are placed too far forward. I'd like to see a more level rump too, but this isn't as important as the body/front end IMO.

She does have some really nice traits. Her rear udder arch, medial, and teat placement all look very, very nice. Her dry profile suggests that she has a good foreudder. Her legs, both rear and fore, are correct and she is well up on her pasterns. She's very dairy, especially in her neck. She also has a kind eye, and her expression says she is a sweet natured doe. I also like her color She also looks breedy to me, but an actual Nubian breeder may have a more useful opinion.

I have some tube shaped Togg does and have made 1 generation improvements with bucks that have a lot of body capacity and rump width in their background. This doe has a good foundation and I think her faults would be easy to correct with the right buck.

Good luck!!
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Old 10/30/08, 11:13 PM
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I guess I'm different - I don't like her hind end. If her legs weren't set so far back and not on a slope, I'd think she'd stand DOWN hill. She's also steep, something that would be MORE obvious if she wasn't set up in the pic.

She isn't a bad doe, definitely be proud of owning her! Looks like she milks real nice for you!

A very level, uphill buck from dairy lines and has a good front end should give you just beautiful kids.
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Old 10/31/08, 06:55 AM
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Well, I'm a goat newbie, and far from an appraiser, but I'll tell ya what I noticed right off the bat. I absolutely love how very proud she stands. Does that even make sense lol? She has a presence that I think it beautiful. Very queenly and regal. I'd love to have you post another pic of her when she's fattened up a bit.

The only negative I saw (again.. newbie) was the udder is a bit uneven, but that could easily be fixed on her next lactation.

Her spots are just GORGEOUS!
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Old 10/31/08, 09:36 AM
 
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She is a very dairy individual, and stands on strong feet and legs. She has a long bone pattern, which partially accounts for her thin nature, but she is also not very wide bodied. And she has a lovely udder- I've seen much worse udders than hers in the show ring. She may also mature later and put more of a body on as she ages- a sign of a long lived doe line- some don't mature bodywise till they are 5-6 yrs. old.

I'd use a buck that is much wider bodied and perhaps a little more square and squat in structure. Look at his dam when you go to choose the areas you want to imporve in your goats- wide chest and brisket, long level back, width between the hocks, wide butt and hips, etc.
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the critiques given here were some of the most useful for me to read and then translate to my does. Building a conformation vocabulary takes so much time and looking and learning!

thanks for the sharing of information. I appreciate it.
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Old 11/02/08, 10:45 AM
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Thanks so much everyone! I love that you all actually gave me an honest opinion. Now I can start looking for the buck I need come kidding season. (I've got a buck to breed her to I just don't like him much with her, I don't think it's the best match)
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Old 11/03/08, 11:05 AM
 
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I think she's a very stunning doe. She looks VERY healthy too! The only thing I don't like is the small body capacity. But in general, very nice.
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