Costs to register?

[whinnyninny]

It costs $25 to join ADGA, right?

How much does it cost to have a goat registered?

(I'm trying to talk DH into just breeding our Oberhasli to a Nubian buck, as we are not members of the ADGA, and we could sell a mixed-breed dairy doeling for nearly the same as an unregistered 100% breed, and with our luck we'd end up with all bucklings anyway and I plan to wether any bucklings we get...)

[jBlaze]

Look on the ADGA site for costs, i know you have to navigate their site. Do you have kids you can sign up under?
As far as buying goats, I like a good unrigistered cross. People here really prefer the registered animals though. I would say, breed for the best charasteristics you can, then you can register them later if you want. (starting with a redorded grade and breeding to registered stock, you achieve breed status in the 4th generation.) The lady at ADGA is nice and can answer these questions over the phone too, it is way to hard to figure it uot on thier website.
hth

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

A cross milker will go for upwards of $500 in your area, like mine if she is milkstand ready, in good shape, tested negative for disease and you have a good reputation. And unregistered kid? No way could you get half of what you could get if she was an ADGA Obie purebred or american. With her airplane ears and no paperwork, you could even get lower than half. You have to remember that most folks look at unregistered stock as unmanaged as far as the breedings go...billy A, B and C running with all the does and being bred by their kids also. Kids are a dime a dozen in Texas in the spring, how are yours going to stand out to get more than the $75 anyone can get for a kid? Sorry this is way too much work to be getting that kind of money...in fact selling a whole litter at that price still wouldn't even get you to cost of the dam for the year.

I realize you are stuck not having a buck, so breed to get them into milk, but don't go fooling yourself that in Texas registered with ADGA is not the way to go.

Have you contacted the goat club for your area? ADGA.org has a listing of them. Call the president and ask for help, it's what we do. I just don't know anyone with obies, and I certainly don't know anyone with obies I would breed to in Texas.

Contact Kaye White in Arkansas she is on this list and dairygoatinfo.com see if she knows someone, she shows all over. Also get on a list to purchase one of her does sons this spring.

To register your does when a member of ADGA $7.50 to transfer her from someone else to you when she is already registered $3.50. Bucks $13.50 to register.

There are $1 higher rates for busy season and if you have waited to register a doe until she is over 30 months old or a buck over 2 years old...and about double the rates if you are a non member.

The biggy of what ADGA will do for you is to help you get into touch with herds all over the US but also in your own area. Networking so to speak. Pick up your directory and everyone in ADGA is at your fingertips with what breed they own and if they allow outside breedings. Vicki

Vicki

[whinnyninny]

I guess since I've already contacted the woman, I'll go ahead and take my Ober up there next week. (Maybe I'll get all doelings and can start my own herd, ha ha, and take them to this woman's farm for breeding every year... and yes, she has a CAE-free and CL-free herd). I have my doe's papers... what do I need to get from this woman to see about registering the offspring? The buck's name or registration number or something?

You know, I've yet to meet anyone around here who has even heard of an Oberhasli (with the exception of the woman I bought my does from, and she only had the one).

[whinnyninny]

By the way, Vicki, I was wondering. The buck I'm getting this weekend is mostly solid. My Nubian doe is spotted. Is one "color" dominant over another? Is it likely the kids will be spotted too? (I saw her last kid, a buckling, and it was spotted, but I do not know what color its sire was).

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Ask before you go if she will give you a service memo for the breeding. This is a piece of paper that will go with the application of registry you will fill out on each of the kids. Your doe will be named Unknown then the buck you can fill out from the service memo. One service memo for each doe she breeds, it's sort of like sending into ADGA permission for you to use her buck and record doelings out of him. The will be recorded into the grade herdbook, not registered...registered is American and Purebred only. Bucks have to be purebred or American to be registred, no bucks are recorded anymore now that Sable is out of the mix.

White is the only dominate color in Nubians. So the kids will likely have some white on them, but the Obie coloring is very strong, I would bet being a breed color your kids will take after mom, with airplane ears. Daughters out of these kids will not move forward in the grading up program until their kids ears are either pendulous or prick. Vicki

[whinnyninny]

I have an American Oberhasli and I have her ADGA registration papers. Will she still be listed as Unknown when bred to the Ober buck?

My Nubian spotted doe will be bred to a Nubian buck I am picking up this weekend. Doe is not registered... and I have the option to buy the buck with papers (free w/o his papers, $150 with... don't know if I want them as I will be giving him to another friend with 4 Nubian does after he is done with my doe).

[jBlaze]

If you have your obers papers, then the info on her papers will go on her kids' papers. Do be sure to get a valid breeding memo when you take your doe. Don't assume you can get it later!
Your doe is registered, when bred to a registered buck, your kid can either be american, or purebred, or if you breed her to a registered buck of a different breed, then kid will be registered as expiremental.

I had to take two nice ober boys to the auction because the seller of a bred doe would not help me register them, either with a breeding memo or by signing papers. Very wrong of her. At least I got a reasonable price for them at auction. Few obers here either. Sure nice animals though.

[whinnyninny]

I don't know why people do that. I don't think it'd be that hard to provide a piece of paper.

I think Oberhaslis are very pretty... but I love the personality of Nubians. They're so much fun. (My Oberhasli is "serious", are they all like that?)

Now that I think about it, I'd like to have the kids registered as something (whether purebred or experimental or whatever), so that people who buy kids from me will know what they are, and I can show them what the kids are. I made a mistake buying a Who-Only-Knows-What mix earlier this year... was told she was a Saanen/Nubian cross bred to a ND/Alpine cross (I think that's what it was)... and she popped out 2 Boer kids. I guess she must've been a Saanen/Boer cross. Oh well, BIG lessons learned there!

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Yes with papers Jblaze is correct.

If she balks at a service memo for any reason you can print one out on adga.org, saying perhaps that she doesn't have one. When you use a buck you check tattoos against the paperwork and also make sure she is the listed owner on the registration papers. In the same book as the paperwork would be her negative herd tests for CAE It's amazing how many times "this is lost" or "I don't have his papers here"...come out when asked. If the registration aspect is important pass, if just getting them bred is all you care about get them bred. But if you pay for a breeding do not walk away without a service memo and knowing who you bred to is owned by the breeder and is who they say he is. vicki