Hey cjb!

Minelson · #1 09/02/08, 08:06 PM

Where's the baby goat pictures?

ozark_jewels · #2 09/02/08, 08:36 PM

What? Did I miss a big event?? Did CJB get kids finally??

jill.costello · #3 09/02/08, 09:15 PM

cjb · #4 09/02/08, 09:37 PM

NO!

Only two more weeks and I will be convinced that there are no babies at all.

A dairy (cow) farmer delivered hay yesterday and I asked him to take a look (he used to raise dairy goats). He pointed out three goats and said "Yep, you should expect babies from them". The older doe that did not conceive last year does not look pregnant to him and he wouldn't venture a guess at the ND.

I'll know soon enough, I guess. If there are any coming, they'll just drop when I'm not looking cause I ain't look'n no more.

KSALguy · #5 09/02/08, 09:40 PM

heck at this point i would put the buck back in and see if anything happens, cant hurt nothing, and if they come into heat again you will know,

southerngurl · #6 09/02/08, 09:44 PM

But don't let the buck be with them when they kid. The goo before kidding smells just like heat goo and they may attack the doe.

ozark_jewels · #7 09/02/08, 09:46 PM

LOL! You poor man!

I've been in your shoes before.

I think I would see about borrowing a buck right away. If they aren't bred they should start cycling when exposed to a buck.....and your pretty sure at least one isn't bred anyway, right?

KSALguy · #8 09/02/08, 09:48 PM

i have had all my does kid out both with and with out the buck and had no problems, i didnt milk so there was no problem holding the buck with the does all the time, and no i had no doelings bred early, most of them were sold off before they came into heat anyway.

i watched one doe leave the herd as her goo came out the buck tottally ignored her, she went into the barn and had her twins, and he never harrassed her or anyone else that had just kidded,

thaiblue12 · #9 09/02/08, 10:05 PM

Well hopefully the dairy farmer is right. I also hope you have given up looking at goat monkey's, lol.
Has your swelling gone down or do you still look all chipmunky?
Congratz on your new puppy, he is a cutie.

KSALguy You are lucky. Earlier this year an inexperienced goat person sold a buckling and a doeling to a new goat owner. She was suppose to wether him and didn't, she kept them together at all times. The 9 month old doe went into labor and the 9 month old buck thought she was in some kind of "super heat" and he went after her badly. When the owner tried to separate them he attacked her. Her neighbor tried to helped and he attacked him. They finally got him out of the pen but not before he killed the baby while halfway born and seriously hurting the doe. I had never heard of this before and am thankful that my buck has always been kept separate.

cjb · #10 09/03/08, 03:01 AM

Since I only have two weeks left to find out for sure, I can wait that long. I have not seen any indication of heat with the girls yet so we'll see. If I get no babies at all or very few, I will probably borrow a standard size buck like a Nubian or Ober this time but put the ND at my friend's house with her ND buck.

We'll see. At this point, I'm just hoping that my two best milkers deliver.

I'm having a bad reproductive season this year. My cow just went into heat proving that the AI that I went through blood, sweat and tears to have done didn't take. Drat!

Why is it that my wife and I get pregnant when trying not to and... ugh

steff bugielski · #11 09/03/08, 05:33 AM

You should be able to feel those kids inside her right side.

susanne · #12 09/03/08, 07:41 AM

if they will kid in two weeks, you should see some udders. are you feeding your does too well???? somehow they seem to pack extra only in the middle and it is harder to feel any kids. what about udder development? if they are not bred and you get a normal sized buck, i would look for one that produces small kids

i don't know where you are located, but selenium/e and copper are important for fertility.

thaiblue12 · #13 09/03/08, 07:50 AM

cjb I also stink at feeling in front of their udder for anything. I have tried with my calmest does and I feel....nada. Same with ligaments. I am not sure they exist and think people on here are making fun of us. "Hey look at them trying to find ligaments, HAHAHAHA!"

Did you make your wife a bit nuts when she was pregnant? "Is it time yet?" No?! "Well how about now?!!?" lol

Or do you just save it for the goats?

Cara · #14 09/03/08, 09:05 AM

That is the cutest lil pup! I see why my daughter wants one.

Hope you get your little ones soon.

crazygoatgal · #15 09/03/08, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiblue12

cjb I also stink at feeling in front of their udder for anything. I have tried with my calmest does and I feel....nada. Same with ligaments. I am not sure they exist and think people on here are making fun of us. "Hey look at them trying to find ligaments, HAHAHAHA!"

Did you make your wife a bit nuts when she was pregnant? "Is it time yet?" No?! "Well how about now?!!?" lol

Or do you just save it for the goats?

You are too funny thaiblue!

Ligament torture tactics is the name of the game. I thought it was a sick joke too until I found them. Yes, Georgia, there really is a set of ligments in a goats back end. And they actually disappear when labor is imminent. But they don't actually "disappear", silly us. They just relax, I guess they're tired too.

So, rest assurred that you're not the only one who has felt like an

trying to find something that is supposed to have disappeared by the time you are supposed to be feeling for it. What they should teach is how to find them before the doe is pregnant and periodically during pregnancy and then you will better know what is NOT there anymore. But that would make sense and what better way to confuse and befuddle newbies then to tell them to look for something that shouldn't be there and hope you know what you are not supposed to be feeling

thaiblue12 · #16 09/03/08, 02:03 PM

Well Lynne you are welcome to come on out and show me these supposed " ligaments". But you would probably go home with a baby or two, lol.
I can't find ligaments on the dang pregnant ones or non-preg either so I can't tell when they are softened. I just keep looking at the back ends, that is me Goat 'gina inspector. Too bad it isn't a pay-per-view kind of job or I would be rich!

KSALguy · #17 09/03/08, 05:33 PM

i never kept young imature bucks with the herd long, i kept one buck that was a year old but had been born and raised in a large mixed herd with older bucks and i can only assume he got manners beat into him, the other bucks i kept were 4 years old and up, they were always nonshalant about breeding, if the doe was ready and flagging and he felt like it he would get right to it, other wise he kept his options open lol,

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Minelson · #19 09/03/08, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptyle

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cjb · #20 09/04/08, 02:00 PM

Lol - as I posted on the other thread, no babies yet and I'm starting to wonder if there will be any.

One goat that has been dry for 18 months has milk. Her udder is not full and tight but, if I squeeze, milk comes out. One would think that is a pretty good sign that there are babies.

The ND has NO udder development at all so I have pretty much given up on her and have arranged for her to meet a new buck in a few weeks from now.

My two milking does have been dried out for about 6 weeks and their udders are not full/tight but there's some milk in there.

Oh who knows. Honestly, I just don't expect to get anything and, if I do, I'll be excited.