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Old 08/13/08, 11:25 AM
 
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Exclamation I Need Help Quickly!!!dying Baby

this little boy came to me a little on the thin side but nothing worrysome, he has been eating but not seeming to gain weight, I have dewormed,he is a nubian buckling, he has been being treated for scours for 4 days now and is steadily losing weight, he isnt mch more than skin and bone, this morning when I went to feed and check on him he wouldnt get up, I tryed to get him up as he is alert and bleating and head staying up, but his hind quarters dont seem to work, he tryed to get up on his front end but as soon as he tryed to raise his rear he fell over,,,,I am panicking, this is vets week in alaska and other vet is in some other state at confrence and only other vet in the area ia divorcing her husband and took off,,,,,I have no help!!!!! Please tell me if you know what this is and if it is treatable at this stage, the herd he came from is CAE free ...and all my other goats including his same age half brother are fine, his hb is gaining weight, strong, clean rear no problems

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Old 08/13/08, 11:45 AM
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did he get cocci prevention? what did you use? dosage?
he is too young to be weaned and i suspect overload on coccidia because of weaning stress.
what is his temperature?
i'm afraid it is already too late for this little guy.
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Old 08/13/08, 12:01 PM
 
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First if he is now 2 months old and was already weaned that is really alarming. More kids die at weaning than at any other time. That is why weaning only after they are eating enough to replace the calories they get from milk is soo important.

What did you worm with and what are you using for the scours.

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I would worm him (if what you used isn't adequate, I would use cydectin) and I would have him on a sulfa for cocci and banamine.

Banamine is a vet script. Do you have any breeders in your area you could take him to for a fecal? Or for the banamine?

Does the diarrhea stink?

It's hard when you don't have alot on hand, he needs subq fluids, and I would put him back on a bottle if he will take it. He likely failed to thrive because he wasn't getting enough nutrition once he was weaned from the milk.

A temp under 100 and put him down. Vicki
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Old 08/13/08, 12:21 PM
 
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What about a shot of B vitamins?
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Old 08/13/08, 01:53 PM
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I just got home from work...what's going on with this baby??!!!!
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Old 08/13/08, 03:21 PM
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How is this little one doing? Have you been able to get a temp on him? I have helped several 4Hers that had goats with temps below 100 and we saved them, so lets just hope for the best here.
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Old 08/13/08, 04:27 PM
 
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thank you all for your quick response,,,,,,he died immediatly after I gave a shot of vit E and a shot of ivermectin, I held him in my arms as he struggled and died.......yet another lesson on the farm......his vocal cords were deffinatly strong and he was fairly active,....... it all happend so fast, last night he was still waiting at his gate to be fed and wagged his tail(though it was very nasty)when I scratched his head.....then this morning....such a difference,,,,,well, shows how little I know....thank you all I appreciate the thoughtfullness and quick responses....now not only am I mourning my little buddy I had grown so attatched to, but also having to face the prospect of finding a new future herd sire.....and tear down and disinfect that pen area,
(focusing on farm responsiblitities often helps me let go and forget about problems, but it doesnt really work if the problem is farm related)

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Old 08/13/08, 04:30 PM
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I can't believe somebody would think weaning a baby goat at two weeks was going to work.

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Old 08/13/08, 04:45 PM
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So sorry for your loss and sadness.
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Old 08/13/08, 04:45 PM
 
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I find it more amazing that he lived as long as he did.
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Old 08/13/08, 04:48 PM
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I'm sorry you lost him. I know how easy it is to become attached to the little guys. I'm glad you were with him when he died.
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Old 08/13/08, 04:55 PM
 
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I'm sorry to hear about your little one. You had some good advice here and in addition I was going to add that you consider giving him electrolytes, CMPK or MFO with dextrose (orally and in small frequent doses), probiotics, a cud transplant, and possibly colostrum from the oldest doe available. All of these things can help a downed goat. I had something similar happen with a 3-month-old but he did not have the early weaning issues your boy had. We never did figure it out even with several vets consulted (including the local small ruminant specialist). A necropsy revealed nothing but we may have been able to find something had we not had to freeze the carcass before the samples could be taken.

As an aside, when you select another herd sire, please spend some time choosing the best you can possibly afford, including the health & start of the animal. It may be better for you to either use buck service or AI or get a buck that is a little older so you can see what he's going to grow up to be. Choosing one at 6 weeks is very difficult, especially for a newbie.
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